more guns = more crime
12 Oct 2015, 12:12 pm
0regonGuy wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
australia banned assault weapons and their mass shootings stopped.
Australia banned damn near every gun that's even remotely fun. I myself don't believe in trading freedom for safety and I have no use for anyone that would.
I'll be eager to see what your response will be when they have another mass shooting in Australia anyway. Did you know that mass shootings themselves are "banned" over here, too.
The very last mass shooting we had was the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Nine-teen ninety six!! ! You, on the other hand, seem to have one every week! Prior to the ban we were headed for a situation that, had the ban not been implemented, would have resulted in Australia becoming more like the U.S. '...trading freedom for safety' - false dichotomy fallacy. Australia IS a free country, and I know this because I have lived here long enough now (45 years), and we are free in spite of the fact that we don't allow every lunatic who wants one to buy a gun. There is NO correlation between gun ownership and freedom.
Sure, 'guns don't kill people, people kill people', BUT... people with guns kill more people, and they do so more efficiently, than those who don't use them. Guns are made for one purpose only, unlike a knife, and that is to kill. They therefore serve no useful purpose at all.
Yes of course. The streets run red with blood over here. I've been shot several times and have died on three of those occasions. I have shot many people myself. We live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval.
Yep, that's about all the rebuttal your reply is worth.
Next.
Well, when you can't argue with the facts...
You mean posting sources like the U.S.C. 922(g) regarding firearms possession by those judged mentally defective after you implied no such measures existed in the US?
Tell ya what; go back and look at some of these gunz-r bad threads and find one time where your side was able to bring a valid argument point to the table. I double-dog dare you.
We've already been over everything over the years including the Port Arthur massacre.
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12 Oct 2015, 9:02 pm
Raptor wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
australia banned assault weapons and their mass shootings stopped.
Australia banned damn near every gun that's even remotely fun. I myself don't believe in trading freedom for safety and I have no use for anyone that would.
I'll be eager to see what your response will be when they have another mass shooting in Australia anyway. Did you know that mass shootings themselves are "banned" over here, too.
The very last mass shooting we had was the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Nine-teen ninety six!! ! You, on the other hand, seem to have one every week! Prior to the ban we were headed for a situation that, had the ban not been implemented, would have resulted in Australia becoming more like the U.S. '...trading freedom for safety' - false dichotomy fallacy. Australia IS a free country, and I know this because I have lived here long enough now (45 years), and we are free in spite of the fact that we don't allow every lunatic who wants one to buy a gun. There is NO correlation between gun ownership and freedom.
Sure, 'guns don't kill people, people kill people', BUT... people with guns kill more people, and they do so more efficiently, than those who don't use them. Guns are made for one purpose only, unlike a knife, and that is to kill. They therefore serve no useful purpose at all.
Yes of course. The streets run red with blood over here. I've been shot several times and have died on three of those occasions. I have shot many people myself. We live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval.
Yep, that's about all the rebuttal your reply is worth.
Next.
It wasn't really a rebuttal; I was simply highlighting a few facts. Yes - facts. You can check for yourself, it's easy enough to do.
13 Oct 2015, 1:25 pm
Lintar wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
australia banned assault weapons and their mass shootings stopped.
Australia banned damn near every gun that's even remotely fun. I myself don't believe in trading freedom for safety and I have no use for anyone that would.
I'll be eager to see what your response will be when they have another mass shooting in Australia anyway. Did you know that mass shootings themselves are "banned" over here, too.
The very last mass shooting we had was the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Nine-teen ninety six!! ! You, on the other hand, seem to have one every week! Prior to the ban we were headed for a situation that, had the ban not been implemented, would have resulted in Australia becoming more like the U.S. '...trading freedom for safety' - false dichotomy fallacy. Australia IS a free country, and I know this because I have lived here long enough now (45 years), and we are free in spite of the fact that we don't allow every lunatic who wants one to buy a gun. There is NO correlation between gun ownership and freedom.
Sure, 'guns don't kill people, people kill people', BUT... people with guns kill more people, and they do so more efficiently, than those who don't use them. Guns are made for one purpose only, unlike a knife, and that is to kill. They therefore serve no useful purpose at all.
Yes of course. The streets run red with blood over here. I've been shot several times and have died on three of those occasions. I have shot many people myself. We live on rats and sawdust bread and sometimes... on each other. At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval.
Yep, that's about all the rebuttal your reply is worth.
Next.
It wasn't really a rebuttal; I was simply highlighting a few facts. Yes - facts. You can check for yourself, it's easy enough to do.
Mine was a rebuttal.
But to go back since I have absolutely nothing better to do at the moment:
Lintar wrote:
The very last mass shooting we had was the Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Nine-teen ninety six!! !
Port Arthur was a fluke. Before that you had nothing in its class in terms of mass murder with the exception of the massacre of 60–170 Aborigines in 1928 and 300–400 in 1916. Between 1928 and 1996 your biggest massacre was by arson in 1973 which resulted in the deaths of 15. Since your beloved gun bans have passed there have been a total of 36 killed in arson attacks. That's one more death than Port Arthur. No, people arent dead-er if they get shot as opposed to burning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
Asided from making your kind feel better, the Australian assault weapon ban has had no significant effect.
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You, on the other hand, seem to have one every week!
Lying doesnt help your case, but on the other hand no amount of help would suffice.
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Prior to the ban we were headed for a situation that, had the ban not been implemented, would have resulted in Australia becoming more like the U.S. '...trading freedom for safety' - false dichotomy fallacy. Australia IS a free country, and I know this because I have lived here long enough now (45 years), and we are free in spite of the fact that we don't allow every lunatic who wants one to buy a gun. There is NO correlation between gun ownership and freedom.
Your idea of freedom and mine are vastly different.
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