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02 Jun 2016, 7:48 pm

It is being reported that Trump has been involved in approximately 3,500 lawsuits over the last thirty years. Over the last year, there is a new lawsuit with either him as plaintiff or defendant about every five days.

I haven't seen any reliable statistics about the proportion settled in his favor and doubt that anyone else here knows either.



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02 Jun 2016, 7:49 pm

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It just happens to be a big set of suits with the courts finally ordering the unsealing of the documents.

He's on record claiming to "hand pick" the instructors, that the instructors met his high real estate requirements, instructors had real estate experience and that he was active in the education and students lives.

This week he claims he was completely hands off with Trump University and didn't know what was going on there.
He says if anything wrong doing happened, it was due to people hired by others to run it.

He also claims he never made those claims in 2005 and doesn't know where the record of him in person making those claims are coming from.
He's also flip flopping with the courts on the stuff he's told them under oath regarding the university as part of his trial.

He's has inferred the establishment is out to get him and behind it based on the timing of it.


And people who aren't shills for Hillary are going to care about this why? Again, who is any of this news to?

This is just news on a presidential candidate who is party to a suit brought by many states.
The vast majority of voters haven't made up their minds yet and want to know more about each Candidates.

Granted most voters don't start paying attention until September in presidential years.

Though the story is getting good ratings even on Fox News... So anything is possible.


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02 Jun 2016, 7:52 pm

Trump never directly said it, he said Japan should pony up and pay for 100% of the defense cost to us or we should be prepared to walk and they could defend themselves meaning nukes. There is no should in it, they can do as they wish.

I don't care if Japan or South Korea gets nukes, let them, I'm not worried about proliferation to our allies. Why are we paying the defense budget for the richest countries on Earth?

Honestly, I don't really care that much about Iran getting them because I don't think they want them for any other reason but defense. The reason why they're so scared of Iran getting nukes is that then they can't wage war or punitively bomb them anymore without risking a much bigger conflict, they'd have to start treating them as equals. If I were Iranian, I would certainly want nuclear weapons given the non-stop threats of invasion from the US for almost the last 40 years.



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02 Jun 2016, 7:55 pm

eric76 wrote:
It is being reported that Trump has been involved in approximately 3,500 lawsuits over the last thirty years. Over the last year, there is a new lawsuit with either him as plaintiff or defendant about every five days.

I haven't seen any reliable statistics about the proportion settled in his favor and doubt that anyone else here knows either.


USA Today had it 450 wins for Trump 38 losses, pretty good ratio.

When you are in business people sue you, it's a natural byproduct. It wasn't like he was sued and lost a sexual harassment suit as a sitting president like Bill Clinton which he lied about and ended up getting himself disbarred from practicing law in Arkansas. Joke was on them tho, he was never going back after hitting it big as president.

In fact, Bill Clinton is the one that put an end to this idea of "if the president does it, it's not illegal" they are liable in civil court.



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02 Jun 2016, 8:11 pm

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Trump never directly said it, he said Japan should pony up and pay for 100% of the defense cost to us or we should be prepared to walk and they could defend themselves meaning nukes. There is no should in it, they can do as they wish.

I don't care if Japan or South Korea gets nukes, let them, I'm not worried about proliferation to our allies. Why are we paying the defense budget for the richest countries on Earth?

Honestly, I don't really care that much about Iran getting them because I don't think they want them for any other reason but defense. The reason why they're so scared of Iran getting nukes is that then they can't wage war or punitively bomb them anymore without risking a much bigger conflict, they'd have to start treating them as equals. If I were Iranian, I would certainly want nuclear weapons given the non-stop threats of invasion from the US for almost the last 40 years.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... on-lying-/

Politifact says Trump is lying about it and flip flopping on the issue.

Japan is banned by treaty and by their American written constitution from rearming themselves and having nuclear weapons.
South Korea is also banned from having a huge military and nuclear weapons based on the armistice agreement.
Germany, Austria and Italy are also banned from rearming and having nukes under the treaties that end WWII in Europe.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:17 pm

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He is a member of La Raza, do you think the judge will be fair and impartial in this case? Everything is political.


According to Fox News, the claim that the judge is a member of La Raza is a complete lie. The judge is not a member of La Raza and never has been.

The judge IS a member of a latino lawyer's association called the "La Raza Lawyers Association" which has nothing to do with the "La Raza" group that is anti-Trump and protesting at his rallies.

Of course, by now the realization that Trump will try to twist everything to fit his little mind should be no surprise.



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02 Jun 2016, 8:19 pm

Those treaties are antiquated and should be scrapped. Trump never said Japan should get nuclear weapons or that he wants them to, he said that maybe they would have to if they're not going to pay for the defense but that's not Hillary is saying. I agree with Trump's stance, if Japan needs nuclear weapons to defend themselves then go ahead. Same with South Korea if it frees us of their burden.



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02 Jun 2016, 8:24 pm

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He is a member of La Raza, do you think the judge will be fair and impartial in this case? Everything is political.


According to Fox News, the claim that the judge is a member of La Raza is a complete lie. The judge is not a member of La Raza and never has been.

The judge IS a member of a latino lawyer's association called the "La Raza Lawyers Association" which has nothing to do with the "La Raza" group that is anti-Trump and protesting at his rallies.

Of course, by now the realization that Trump will try to twist everything to fit his little mind should be no surprise.


You are arguing semantics and calling them complete lies, you don't think the La Raza Lawyers Association has any connection to other La Raza groups of which there are many affiliates? There are some that are very extreme like MEChA which promotes reconquista and the ethnic cleansing of Europeans out of the fantasy homeland of Aztlan.



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02 Jun 2016, 8:41 pm

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Those treaties are antiquated and should be scrapped. Trump never said Japan should get nuclear weapons or that he wants them to, he said that maybe they would have to if they're not going to pay for the defense but that's not Hillary is saying. I agree with Trump's stance, if Japan needs nuclear weapons to defend themselves then go ahead. Same with South Korea if it frees us of their burden.


The treaties can only be scrapped, if all the parties to them agree to end them.

Austria is bounded by the Treaty from 1955 which ended allied occupation.
The UK, U.S., France, Austria and Russia are party to it.
You would need all 5 countries to approve a new treaty freeing Austria from it.
Russia, UK and maybe France would oppose it.

Japanese Defense Treaty from the 1960s, which allows a minimal self defense force.
To return full War Powers to Japan would require approval from Japan's Parliament and the U.S. to legally enact it.
Though they need to consulate South Korea, North Korea, China, Thailand, Russia and the rest of Japan's neighbors.

Japan's neighbors do not want Japan to have full war powers back and will do everything in their powers to prevent it.
China has said it would be an act of war if it happens.

Japan's neighbors have promised to take the case to the UN Security Council to prevent it from happening.
Though whether or not the UNSC has the power to block the treaty is up for debate.

The majority of Japan's public is opposed to rearming and getting full war powers back.


Germany's treaty is from 1990, when the Allies negotiated German reunification with the two Germanys.

The treaty states Germany cannot declare war without approval from the 5 allies.
Germany cannot fully rearm itself
German military is capped at 300,000 people
Germany is not allowed to have a Navy and full Airforce
Germany is not allowed to have WMDs
Germany is not allowed to produce and have missiles and other long range weapons.
Germany is limited to the number of ships, aircraft, heavy vehicles, heavy weapons it can have.
Germany is must submit to verification until Allies deem it no longer necessary.
Germany must take on refugees fullest to it's capabilities
Germany must take on all displaced people it ejected from it's territories under Hitler.
etc...

The UK, France and Russia pushed hard for restrictions on Germany to the point of tying them to the Euro and the EU.
All the conditions placed on Germany can only be lifted if the 4 allies agree and sign a new treaty.


None of the treaties are going to be scrapped anytime soon as long as their are enough countries fearing Germany, Austria and Japan.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:44 pm

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If Trump's problem with the judge was his membership in Larraza, why didn't he just say that? Instead, he goes out of his way to say, "We think he's a Mexican," which was followed by a series of boos from the crowd. Trump called the judge Mexican (he's actually an American by birth) because he knew he could get sympathy from the racists in the audience. I genuinely live in fear of the racist storm that Trump has been stoking, as it might become unleashed on the country. We Americans should never see other Americans as "the other."


tell that to La Raza, it literally means 'the race'


It can. It can also mean family. Again, Trump didn't initially call the judge a member of La Raza, but called him a Mexican, which sounds either very verbally clumsy, or very racist, especially considering the circumstance in which it was said.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm

I don't really care, the president can unilaterally withdraw as it is his right as the commander in chief of the US military. It's not our problem, if Japan wants us to stay(which a lot of them don't) then they can pay up



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02 Jun 2016, 8:53 pm

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Those treaties are antiquated and should be scrapped. Trump never said Japan should get nuclear weapons or that he wants them to, he said that maybe they would have to if they're not going to pay for the defense but that's not Hillary is saying. I agree with Trump's stance, if Japan needs nuclear weapons to defend themselves then go ahead. Same with South Korea if it frees us of their burden.


Let everyone have nuclear weapons, and sooner or later, someone is going to make the insane choice of using them. I for one don't want to live in a world filled with nuclear wastelands that were once countries, and where nuclear fallout could be carried by wind currents across the globe to poison us.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:54 pm

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I don't really care, the president can unilaterally withdraw as it is his right as the commander in chief of the US military. It's not our problem, if Japan wants us to stay(which a lot of them don't) then they can pay up

The president cannot unilaterally withdraw from a treaty and it's obligations, once said treaty and international agreement is ratified by the U.S. Senate.

It's more beneficial to be in Japan and other countries than letting Russia and China take control of those regions.

The U.S. is negotiating a defense treaty with Vietnam and to open a base in Vietnam.
Vietnam is deeply afraid of China and wants the U.S. to help the region push China back.

The U.S. makes more money on trade with most of the countries than it costs to uphold the requirements of those defense treaties.

Many if not the majority of Americans don't want Germany and Japan to rearm and have war powers back, fearing they will start another war against the U.S.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:57 pm

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I don't really care, the president can unilaterally withdraw as it is his right as the commander in chief of the US military. It's not our problem, if Japan wants us to stay(which a lot of them don't) then they can pay up

The president cannot unilaterally withdraw from a treaty and it's obligations, once said treaty and international agreement is ratified by the U.S. Senate.

It's more beneficial to be in Japan and other countries than letting Russia and China take control of those regions.

The U.S. is negotiating a defense treaty with Vietnam and to open a base in Vietnam.
Vietnam is deeply afraid of China and wants the U.S. to help the region push China back.

The U.S. makes more money on trade with most of the countries than it costs to uphold the requirements of those defense treaties.

Many if not the majority of Americans don't want Germany and Japan to rearm and have war powers back, fearing they will start another war against the U.S.


Personally, I think if most people think modern Germany and Japan could go back to their imperialistic ways, they're more than a little paranoid.


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02 Jun 2016, 9:01 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
I don't really care, the president can unilaterally withdraw as it is his right as the commander in chief of the US military. It's not our problem, if Japan wants us to stay(which a lot of them don't) then they can pay up

The president cannot unilaterally withdraw from a treaty and it's obligations, once said treaty and international agreement is ratified by the U.S. Senate.

It's more beneficial to be in Japan and other countries than letting Russia and China take control of those regions.

The U.S. is negotiating a defense treaty with Vietnam and to open a base in Vietnam.
Vietnam is deeply afraid of China and wants the U.S. to help the region push China back.

The U.S. makes more money on trade with most of the countries than it costs to uphold the requirements of those defense treaties.

Many if not the majority of Americans don't want Germany and Japan to rearm and have war powers back, fearing they will start another war against the U.S.


Personally, I think if most people think modern Germany and Japan could go back to their imperialistic ways, they're more than a little paranoid.


Well to be fair it has only been 71 years...
The scars of WWII are that strong and the war was that destructive for most people, that it left a huge impression.

WWII was so devastating for Europe, Australia, SE Asia, and Japan to the point they are still rebuilding...
The fear is real and justified.


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02 Jun 2016, 9:02 pm

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I don't really care, the president can unilaterally withdraw as it is his right as the commander in chief of the US military. It's not our problem, if Japan wants us to stay(which a lot of them don't) then they can pay up

The president cannot unilaterally withdraw from a treaty and it's obligations, once said treaty and international agreement is ratified by the U.S. Senate.

It's more beneficial to be in Japan and other countries than letting Russia and China take control of those regions.

The U.S. is negotiating a defense treaty with Vietnam and to open a base in Vietnam.
Vietnam is deeply afraid of China and wants the U.S. to help the region push China back.

The U.S. makes more money on trade with most of the countries than it costs to uphold the requirements of those defense treaties.

Many if not the majority of Americans don't want Germany and Japan to rearm and have war powers back, fearing they will start another war against the U.S.


I disagree, lets see them challenge that in court. I don't think that is a fear most Americans have, I think if you did a poll most Americans would prefer that they start defending themselves. We shouldn't be paying for our supposed allies defense, we can't afford it and we have better things to spend our money on.