U.S. attacks Syria
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Another possible angle to the U.S. attacks on Syria.....
ANALYSIS by retired Col. Patrick LANG
Donald Trump’s decision to launch cruise missile strikes on a Syrian Air Force Base was based on a lie. In the coming days the American people will learn that the Intelligence Community knew that Syria did not drop a military chemical weapon on innocent civilians in Idlib. Here is what happened.
-- The Russians briefed the United States on the proposed target. This is a process that started more than two months ago. There is a dedicated phone line that is being used to coordinate and deconflict (i.e., prevent US and Russian air assets from shooting at each other) the upcoming operation.
-- The United States was fully briefed on the fact that there was a target in Idlib that the Russians believes was a weapons/explosives depot for Islamic rebels.
-- The Syrian Air Force hit the target with conventional weapons. All involved expected to see a massive secondary explosion. That did not happen. Instead, smoke, chemical smoke, began billowing from the site. It turns out that the Islamic rebels used that site to store chemicals, not sarin, that were deadly. The chemicals included organic phosphates and chlorine and they followed the wind and killed civilians.
-- There was a strong wind blowing that day and the cloud was driven to a nearby village and caused casualties.
-- We know it was not sarin. How? Very simple. The so-called "first responders" handled the victims without gloves. If this had been sarin they would have died. Sarin on the skin will kill you. How do I know? I went through “Live Agent” training at Fort McClellan in Alabama.
There are members of the U.S. military who were aware this strike would occur and it was recorded. There is a film record. At least the Defense Intelligence Agency knows that this was not a chemical weapon attack. In fact, Syrian military chemical weapons were destroyed with the help of Russia.
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I think it's particularly interesting that Russia was talking to the U.S. about this region "more than two months ago", and that the conversation with the U.S. military was filmed; and, that the "Syrian military chemical weapons were destroyed with the help of Russia".
Now, who knows whether this guy knows what he's talking about----but, I certainly feel that, IMO, it gives "Food for Thought".
Also, someone else (Ron Paul, maybe) said they thought that Assad didn't know those chemicals were there----that some Islamic terrorists, or whoever, had stored them there; and, that seems to go-along with the second point, in this quote, that the Colonel made.
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"What we know is a drop; what we don't know, is an ocean." (Sir Isaac Newton)
Two U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea fired 59 Tomahawk missiles intended for a single target — Ash Sha'irat in Homs province in western Syria, the officials said. That's the airfield from which the United States believes the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad fired the banned weapons.
There was no immediate word on casualties. U.S. officials told NBC News that people were not targeted and that aircraft and infrastructure at the site were hit, including the runway and gas fuel pumps.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s ... ck-n743636
interesting....very interesting indeed, guess they didn't indiscriminately bomb the area. I just, since when does trump care about Syrians? Wasn't he trying to ban Syrian refugees coming to america?
In 2013, he condemmed Obama for bombing Syria, strange now he is doing it.
See I almost feel like this action is the one I hate him least for...I mean if he really did bomb that base because he wanted to retaliate against people being chemical weaponed to death by terrorists I can somewhat respect it even if it was reckless. But at this point I still don't know if his little speech about it was from the heart or if this is some kind of con trick or he was fed the lines to say by other government people who pressured him to do it or something.
But I find it interesting that supporters are deserting him like the plague over the one thing that I think may have been the most well intentioned thing he's done so far...provided it was really over the chemical weapons attack, and not some kind of scam. The trouble is trying to figure out which it is...I mean did he have some kind of revelation and realize he may have criticized obama a bit rashly, or is this just another of the businessman tricks up his sleeve?
You feel sorry for him because he's helped Al Qaeda? He's gone back one of the main things that got him elected.
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the more that social media prevails, the more that the decision makers will become secretive which leads to crackpot conspiracy theories and stuff, but at least does not invite input from IQ's of 100 (average) to influence public sentiments.
so things i have noted.
putin condemned the US air strikes on syria as being "ill thought out" (but did not go so far as to say it was an act of incitement to war with the russians).
what else could he say? his country made a pact with syria to defend them ages ago, and all the hype surrounding the speculation about US/russian collusion would be very much amplified if he condoned it.
his condemnation was just a token act.
then someone else i know is speculating that WW3 is likely as a result, and their reasoning is because america has moved naval strike forces within range of syria, and russian war ships are also "steaming" toward the region.
ok it looks like russia's navy will be within hitting range of the US navy (and vice verse) therefore spark a conflict of massive proportions if one fires a shot at the other.
but again i consider it a token gesture to maintain the status quo and stop facebook going beserk with conspiracy theories which would gain weight otherwise.
on another note, the other night as i was going to sleep i was watching a documentary about how WW1 was inculcated.
at one point the narrator said "early in the eruption of WW1, every country involved was convinced that it was fighting a defensive war imposed upon them by someone else"
that seemed hilarious and i laughed at the cartoonish kind of comedy of errors, but that's the biggest worry we have.
confusion.
if russia and the US know exactly each others plans and intentions, then it will never get out of hand like a "panic war" which WW1 started as.
whatever...
anyway i did not just "swallow" what i heard about WW1 with no further input.
i may be wrong in my understanding ( i went to sleep during the show), but to summarize it:
prince ferdinand of the austrian-hungarian empire was in serbia for some salutory visit (pr trip) and was sniped by an opportunist when fedinand's driver went down the wrong street and was attempting to back out of the street.
austria felt like it should retaliate but knew that russia would defend serbia, so called germany into the potential fray if it escalated because germany and them were allies.
so russia saw the mobilization of the german weaponry toward their border and called in france who were their allies to be ready to act if necessary.
then russia rolled it's weapons near the german border just in case it was the beginning of an invasion by germany into their country.
germany saw this as being a potential russian invasion into germany and then some clown said "fire" and the whole saga of WW1 was sparked off.
very abbreviated of course because it has nothing to do with the thread except for the fact that communication is the barrier between panic and decisiveness.
You catch little bits and pieces, throughout the whole election cycle, to the effect that he was never a self-made man, and nobody ever wants to hear that, ever. Although it's fun and easy to blame a blustering, orange distraction, (or, perhaps, some flaming iguana) the real decision makers are probably along the lines of special interests.

