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Why do you guys hate Russia so much? Is it because of the sustained propaganda war ever sense they took in Edward Snowden or is it from your childhood during the Cold War? What are you so afraid of?

I don't hate Russia, I think there are areas we can work with them, very few, but there are some, ISIS being an example. I'm just not willing to give up every strategic interest we have to get those done. Second, I don't trust Putin, nor should anyone in their right mind, people that criticize his leadership have a nasty habit of winding up dead, we're already allied with enough brutal dictators, we don't need another. Never forget he was a KGB agent in eastern Germany (stasi, the worst of the worst), which is all I need to know about his moral fiber.

My question for you is: why are you making arguments that come straight out of the Kremlin? Everything you've proposed helps out Russia far more than it helps us, don't you see that? Or is just a case of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'?

How and why would we have to give up every "strategic interest" we have to get it done? What are you referring to?

I think the US government kills people too, the Clinton's have a longer list of associates that have turned up dead than Putin. I think it's silly to pretend like we don't do the same things, Russia and the US seem like two peas in a pod. As for trusting Putin, what are you worried about? What do you think he's going to do? Lets not act like there isn't an 'intelligence state' in the US either, I see no reason not to accept their extending of the olive branch and consider a great opportunity to forge a bond between our two countries.

It doesn't matter if our relationship benefits Russia more because the US and its allies will benefit plenty, it benefiting Russia more gives the US leverage and possibly dependency. I think they can be an equal partner in this War on Terror, somebody that actually carries their own weight unlike our sad sack friends who refuse to spend to a measly 2% on defense and refuse to partake in any combat missions might actually help us win this thing. If we have no intention of winning then we should completely withdraw our forces and disengage.

I've been saying this stuff for years now which you can look up on this site, long before Trump was a candidate. I've said this plenty of times but it was in fact Trump's nuanced position on Russia that initially sold me on his candidacy.

Yes and the Russians have also been planting pro-Russian propaganda certain websites since 2012, I don't doubt you've been saying it for a long time, the Russians have been grooming you for a long time.

Apparently is.

None of us hate Russia. I think all of us old enough were cheering for Russia when they finally threw off communism. But old habits die hard, and the habit of totalitarian rule never vanished from Russia, especially as there is virtually zero foundations with democracy in modern day Russia. That's why the Arab Spring had failed so badly. That, and Putin seems so devoid of our values of tolerance that are so important to not only Americans, but our western allies.

My special interest has always been foreign policy, it didn't take long for the Arab Spring to show itself not to be the great thing it was made out to be and I totally opposed the intervention into Libya. After seeing Gaddafi get sodomized to death it really drove home the monsters we were allying ourselves with, we betrayed Gaddafi and the plan was to do the same thing to Bashar al-Assad. It becomes rapidly clear in Syria that it is a war between Islamists and Syrian government, not peaceful protests or secular moderates and students. Now all the sudden ISIS shows up on the scene with American equipment and threatens to take over the whole of Syria, there is a gas attack in Ghouta that gets attributed to Assad even tho the evidence is dubious that gets the war drums beating in the US. John Kerry stupidly throws it out there that Syria could avoid conflict if agreed to give up their chemical weapons which both Russia and Syria quickly reply to. It is Russia the stops us from going to war in Syria, who stopped ISIS from taking the entirety of the country. It wasn't until the Russian intervention started that ISIS's advance was repelled even tho the US supposedly had been bombing them as well for months but apparently Obama didn't feel it necessary to bomb their oil infrastructure or care about the the tanker trucks going over the border to Turkey. So in light of the US arming jihadists, it's hard not to be thankful for Russia who kept us out of a stupid war and also took in Edward Snowden and revealed to us the police state that was being created in our country. Obama straight up supported terrorism, there is no way around it.

Where is this magical Russian propaganda?

No, Obama did not support terrorism. He and others naively believed the Arab Spring would work out, and so tried to rid that part of the world of it's strongmen by aiding local uprisings. Certainly, there were fanatical Jihadists who were wrongly thought to be freedom fighters, and so were given weapons. But just as likely, Jihadists had either bought or stole those weapons. To say that Obama purposely supported terrorism is a right wing fantasy that goes along with the discredited notion that he's a secret Muslim.

He gave provided the weapons used in this war in Syria, he's totally responsible because there is no war without him. These Arab Spring rebellions weren't organic either, Obama's foreign policy was to empower the Muslim Brotherhood. All of those weapons meant for 'moderate' rebels ended up in the hands of ISIS or some other jihadist group in Syria as they are the only fighting groups on the ground.

Of course, people are just going to live happily under oppression in Libya and Syria without Obama prodding them!

Nobody in either of those countries are happy with the result of their rebellions, they are ungovernable and filled to the brim with ISIS. These terrorists from Libya crossed the border into Egypt the other day and killed 25 Christians. Obama didn't dare try any of the Arab Spring stuff in the Gulf, Bahrain had a Shia uprising that was crushed by the Saudis.

No one in those countries, or anywhere else, has 20/20 hindsight, so they had no idea how those revolts would turn out. That hardly means those uprisings weren't organic. How many Russians were satisfied with the Russian Revolution when all was said and done?
No, Obama did nothing for the Shia in Bahrain, as no other President would, and as Trump will not do either, if there is again such an uprising. The Saudis are our dealer with our oil addiction.

In addressing the phenomenon itself, I think a good part of it these days especially, is that it's necessary to portray Russia as the the ultimate evil entity and rekindle Cold War fears since attempts are being made to link Trump to them, as in he's colluding with the evil arch enemy, he's their puppet and all of that. The minute Russia stops being SPECTRE and Putin stops being Blofeld, Trump or his staff taking to Russians stops being treason and so on. Plus since they aren't "brown" Russia can be vilified without it being racist.

Have you considered the possibility that Russia doesn't have our best interests at heart in their dreams of expansion?
This has absolutely nothing to do with the Cold War, but with the current totalitarian government of Russia.
And seriously, you know that you're favoring an anti-democratic regime when it comes to Russia, don't you? As opposed to our allies in European who share our democratic values.

I must be a commie. Better report me so I can be blacklisted.

It was actually you guys on the right who had a history of blacklisting people with my kind of politics.