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trickle down econonics- a fairy tale, or what?
trickle down benefits the 99% :idea: 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
trickle down benefits only the 1% :x 82%  82%  [ 28 ]
i'm not sure :shrug: 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
where's my ice cream? :chef: 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
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27 Dec 2017, 9:47 pm

^^watch them figure out how to place the blame on the rest of us who didn't support him. democrats will be blamed just the same.



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27 Dec 2017, 9:55 pm

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Scam? What, people getting to keep more of their own money instead of sending it to the government is a scam?


If it's gop and trump, it must be evil.



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27 Dec 2017, 10:02 pm

the major part of the evil of the greedy oligarchic pachyderms, is their endless repeating of the BIG LIE of "trickle down."



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29 Dec 2017, 6:48 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Scam? What, people getting to keep more of their own money instead of sending it to the government is a scam?


If it's gop and trump, it must be evil.


It is going to work out the same way as the Bush tax cuts. At least when Bush passed his tax cuts we were already on the verge of a recession, so there was at least a reason to try to do something. This tax cut isn't even intended to stimulate the economy, just to give the wealthy what they think they deserve.



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29 Dec 2017, 6:51 pm

wowiexist wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Scam? What, people getting to keep more of their own money instead of sending it to the government is a scam?


If it's gop and trump, it must be evil.


It is going to work out the same way as the Bush tax cuts. At least when Bush passed his tax cuts we were already on the verge of a recession, so there was at least a reason to try to do something. This tax cut isn't even intended to stimulate the economy, just to give the wealthy what they think they deserve.

it is designed to "starve the beast" [the rest of us]. it is designed to eventually squeeze out all social programs. it is an attack on the 99% in the guise of giving those in the upper half of income distribution a tax cut.



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30 Dec 2017, 1:58 pm

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The congressional Republicans have to enrich their wealthy donors in order to get reelected.


That tends to be one of the main reasons behind such as it pertains to the Koch Brothers.The Mercers,and several other mega rich persons that prop up candidates to serve their agenda for a disaster capitalistic form of society.Also, not only are mega-wealthy donors do the Republicans serve but, massive global corporations who have an invested interest in making profits at any cost with no regulations or restrictions to hinder them.



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30 Dec 2017, 2:20 pm

and complacent/deceived/undiscerning voters chose to let those sociopaths rule over them, time and again! "thank you sir, may I have another (butt paddling)?" :scratch:



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30 Dec 2017, 2:25 pm

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and complacent/deceived/undiscerning voters chose to let those sociopaths rule over them, time and again! "thank you sir, may I have another (butt paddling)?" :scratch:


Yes, that's a valid point as well trying to replace members of the Gropers or Pedophiles party in any branch of government is not that easy;however, it has been done and will continue to be done if people with a rational sense of logic and critical thinking skills work to remove such tyrants from our presence.


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30 Dec 2017, 2:42 pm

kazanscube wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
and complacent/deceived/undiscerning voters chose to let those sociopaths rule over them, time and again! "thank you sir, may I have another (butt paddling)?" :scratch:


Yes, that's a valid point as well trying to replace members of the Gropers or Pedophiles party in any branch of government is not that easy;however, it has been done and will continue to be done if people with a rational sense of logic and critical thinking skills work to remove such tyrants from our presence.

that reminds me of an exchange between presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson and a reporter who told him, "you have the votes of THINKING people everywhere," to which Adlai sharply retorted, "but I need a MAJORITY to win."



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30 Dec 2017, 3:33 pm

auntblabby wrote:
kazanscube wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
and complacent/deceived/undiscerning voters chose to let those sociopaths rule over them, time and again! "thank you sir, may I have another (butt paddling)?" :scratch:


Yes, that's a valid point as well trying to replace members of the Gropers or Pedophiles party in any branch of government is not that easy;however, it has been done and will continue to be done if people with a rational sense of logic and critical thinking skills work to remove such tyrants from our presence.

that reminds me of an exchange between presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson and a reporter who told him, "you have the votes of THINKING people everywhere," to which Adlai sharply retorted, "but I need a MAJORITY to win."


Yes, these idiots will be removed as, I feel that will happen at the middle part of 2018


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30 Dec 2017, 3:51 pm

kazanscube wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
kazanscube wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
and complacent/deceived/undiscerning voters chose to let those sociopaths rule over them, time and again! "thank you sir, may I have another (butt paddling)?" :scratch:


Yes, that's a valid point as well trying to replace members of the Gropers or Pedophiles party in any branch of government is not that easy;however, it has been done and will continue to be done if people with a rational sense of logic and critical thinking skills work to remove such tyrants from our presence.

that reminds me of an exchange between presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson and a reporter who told him, "you have the votes of THINKING people everywhere," to which Adlai sharply retorted, "but I need a MAJORITY to win."


Yes, these idiots will be removed as, I feel that will happen at the middle part of 2018

Off topic: your recent avatar orgy is giving me vertigo...



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30 Dec 2017, 3:59 pm

@kazanscube: Not without some difficulty, I'm afraid.

Look at Roy Moore refusing to concede, look at those clowns in Virginia digging out an obviously spoiled ballot to use to invalidate the one-vote margin on that State representative recount that gave a Dem a seat. (Edit in: sorry, too many special elections on my mind. That one was state level.)

Such people are dirty tricksters to the manner born, completely focused on power and the greedygrab, utterly dishonest, utterly shameless.

Meanwhile, the courts are being packed with incompetent loyalists, so you can guess how summary judgment/the appeals process will go when the 2018 midterm votes are contested. The 2000 SCOTUS electoral decision was the test balloon for that one. Everyone just rolled over for it. We see where that led.

We have GOT to stop telling ourselves that people who refuse even to acknowledge the existence of law will voluntarily submit to it. Criminals do not obey laws. Some of these clowns will have to be fired from their jobs as if they were embezzlers being terminated from businesses: marched out of the place with their badges confiscated and all their stuff in a box, between armed guards, right into the cop car. Peacefully, but seriously.

One of the best remedies for this garbage is sunshine - exposure, news coverage. Relentless, unremitting. Which, of course, is why the free press has become a target - good of them to realize that, finally.

@Aristophanes: oh dear, an avatar orgy? don't give the lad ideas :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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30 Dec 2017, 4:19 pm

Yes Esmerelda, your quite right about how these tyrants would find ways & means to remain in office while during that time continue to plunder the American nation further into financial dept,environmental catastrophes,social divisiveness,and making tons of money all the while America goes downhill. Like I had started in a previous post about how I once lived in the state of civil abuse** Alabama,though I live in a state with a similar history, I do my best from an electorial standpoint that such is not mirrored.
I agree the supreme court has been supplanted with nothing more than right-wing religious zealots and idealogues as such.Honestly,I'm hope whatever is left of people whom have critical thinking skills will try to do something to oust these tyrants from their offices not with violence but, non-stop protests in various ways.

Speaking of such, I had seen where religitard Mike Pence's neighbors put up a banner/sign saying,"Make America Gay Again".I hope this idiot gets the message that no one likes him or his cult followers nationwide.


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30 Dec 2017, 4:22 pm

Has anyone seen or listened to any ads saying how the passed tax cuts for the wealthy are good for you? Those ads are funded by the Kochs. Don't buy into them.


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30 Dec 2017, 4:26 pm

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Has anyone seen or listened to any ads saying how the passed tax cuts for the wealthy are good for you? Those ads are funded by the Kochs. Don't buy into them.


I read about that earlier pertaining to those robber barons.


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30 Dec 2017, 4:39 pm

The above two posts by Kazan and Esmerelda highlight my biggest concern thus far with the "Trump experiment": As little as Trump and his congressional allies have gotten done legislatively, they've far outdone themselves in the judicial branch. That's actually much, much more dangerous than anything they could do legislatively, and that's because legislation can be changed, judicial nominations are for life. I'd be concerned if it were just Trump putting names up to be nominated because he's shown a complete lack of judgement on personnel issues (Manafort, Papadopoulos, the Flynn Gang, etc.), but that's actually the least of the issues with this spate of judicial nominees. Congress is playing really loose with the rules for such important posts. I've never heard of multiple nominees joining the same hearing (always used to be one nomination = one hearing, not five guys getting rubber stamped in the same proceeding), and half their qualifications amount to "I never practiced law, but I do what I'm told"-- the exact opposite of what's required of a judge. Over the next 30-40 years the judicial system is going to be bogged down by courts that don't know what their official capacity is, doesn't know the limits of the judicial branch, and flat out doesn't know how a court proceeding proceeds, all the while ruling on their 'gut political instincts' and nothing to do with the rule of law or even the merits of the cases presented. In essence, in one short year Trump and his congressional allies have given us the framework for a judicial system most often found in Banana Republics.