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27 Jan 2018, 8:03 pm

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it is usually European heritage who happen to be white.

Judaism is a religion. White is a color...


Nice try. Jews see themselves as a race too and build racial colonies for non religious Jews also.


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27 Jan 2018, 8:13 pm

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Jews see themselves as a race too and build racial colonies for non religious Jews also.


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To be fair, many Jews consider Jews to be an ethnic group. This sort of racism does, in fact, infect Israeli society.


I don't claim to be an expert on Judaism but so long as you are follow the torah you are Jewish. Do these people look middle eastern to you?
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27 Jan 2018, 8:16 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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it is usually European heritage who happen to be white.

Judaism is a religion. White is a color...


Nice try. Jews see themselves as a race too and build racial colonies for non religious Jews also.


Not all Jews see Jews as a race.

For example, the Neturei Karta insist that the Jews aren't a race.


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27 Jan 2018, 8:18 pm

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Not all Jews see Jews as a race.
For example, the Neturei Karta insist that the Jews aren't a race.


John's playing his usual game of obfuscating the issue of the thread (posted here about Sandgren) by claiming jews are worse...



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27 Jan 2018, 8:24 pm

cyberdad wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Jews see themselves as a race too and build racial colonies for non religious Jews also.


DarthMetaKnight wrote:
To be fair, many Jews consider Jews to be an ethnic group. This sort of racism does, in fact, infect Israeli society.


I don't claim to be an expert on Judaism but so long as you are follow the torah you are Jewish. Do these people look middle eastern to you?
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The exact definition of Jewishness has been the subject of much debate.

Many Israeli nationalists insist that you need to be a descendent of the Ancient Israelites to be a true Jew.

To this day, most people who follow the Jewish religion are descendants of the Ancient Israelites, though this is not universally true.

Racial anti-Semitism played a huge role in Nazi Germany. In Nazi Germany, you were sent to the gas chambers if any of your ancestors were Ancient Israelites. This included many people who did not follow the Jewish religion.


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27 Jan 2018, 8:35 pm

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Racial anti-Semitism played a huge role in Nazi Germany. In Nazi Germany, you were sent to the gas chambers if any of your ancestors were Ancient Israelites. This included many people who did not follow the Jewish religion.

Anti-semitism seems to be important for those on the alt-right for reasons they know best



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28 Jan 2018, 12:01 pm

cyberdad wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Jews see themselves as a race too and build racial colonies for non religious Jews also.


DarthMetaKnight wrote:
To be fair, many Jews consider Jews to be an ethnic group. This sort of racism does, in fact, infect Israeli society.


I don't claim to be an expert on Judaism but so long as you are follow the torah you are Jewish. Do these people look middle eastern to you?
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3 ... f0071bae-c

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a6/24/6d/a624 ... istory.jpg


You know full well that atheists can be considered Jews so why play games?


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28 Jan 2018, 12:06 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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it is usually European heritage who happen to be white.

Judaism is a religion. White is a color...


I wasn't even talking about Judaism here. I was talking about nationalists who usually talk about European heritage.


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28 Jan 2018, 12:09 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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Not all Jews see Jews as a race.
For example, the Neturei Karta insist that the Jews aren't a race.


John's playing his usual game of obfuscating the issue of the thread (posted here about Sandgren) by claiming jews are worse...


It wasn't me who mentioned Jews first. Though yes, Israeli leaders are worse than him. As are leaders of most countries.


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28 Jan 2018, 12:11 pm

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Racial anti-Semitism played a huge role in Nazi Germany. In Nazi Germany, you were sent to the gas chambers if any of your ancestors were Ancient Israelites. This included many people who did not follow the Jewish religion.

Anti-semitism seems to be important for those on the alt-right for reasons they know best


The 'alt-right' are pretty much all Zionists. Why are you avoiding that?


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28 Jan 2018, 12:19 pm

As is Anders Breivik.


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28 Jan 2018, 12:22 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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Racial anti-Semitism played a huge role in Nazi Germany. In Nazi Germany, you were sent to the gas chambers if any of your ancestors were Ancient Israelites. This included many people who did not follow the Jewish religion.

Anti-semitism seems to be important for those on the alt-right for reasons they know best


The 'alt-right' are pretty much all Zionists. Why are you avoiding that?


I've argued with alt-righters on other sites before.

Most of them want America to ignore the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rather than take a side.

That isn't exactly Zionism.


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28 Jan 2018, 3:06 pm

Depends on what you class as 'alt-right'. I'm talking about most nationalists nowdays. They support Israel because they see them fighting against Muslims.


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28 Jan 2018, 4:31 pm

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Depends on what you class as 'alt-right'. I'm talking about most nationalists nowdays. They support Israel because they see them fighting against Muslims.


There are also a few white nationalists who support Palestine for purely anti-Semitic reasons.

Black supremacists are like this too.


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28 Jan 2018, 6:30 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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Depends on what you class as 'alt-right'. I'm talking about most nationalists nowdays. They support Israel because they see them fighting against Muslims.


There are also a few white nationalists who support Palestine for purely anti-Semitic reasons.

Black supremacists are like this too.


Probably. But it isn't something that can be proved and is better than supporting Israel.


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28 Jan 2018, 11:43 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Depends on what you class as 'alt-right'. I'm talking about most nationalists nowdays. They support Israel because they see them fighting against Muslims.

The alt-righters all tend to believe the white race is in danger...that seems to be common denominator