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I wasn't talking about capitalist Christians vs socialist Christians.
When did I say all evangelicals believe in the prosperity gospel? As I recall, I said Trump had attached himself to that heresy.

It might not have occurred to you but many liberals don't believe in the literal meaning of the bible. Of course the stupid conservative christians claim to follow the bible word for word but have no problem cutting corners when it suits their selfish agenda

Idk, seems like there's this one huge conglomeration of evil fundimental/evangelical/alt-right/capitalists you're always condemning.

That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that a multitude of liberal socialists, christians or otherwise, make a lot of money and enjoy a whole lot of material things, the same as conservative capitalist. And therefore them denouncing conservative capitalists is just hypocritical talk.

As for what you're talking about, interpreting the bible subjectivity isn't any better than cutting corners. Both amount to the same goal, to get the bible to fit human agenda rather than what's supposed to be God's agenda.

But my point is that not taking the bible literally means you are not encumbered by biblical advice from Christ re: rich people trying to buy the stair way to heaven

Conservative christians on the other hand pride themselves on following the literal scriptures but rarely live up to their own expectations...

I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean.

What Jesus was saying is you can't put weath ahead of god if you want to follow god. But it applies to anything material. If the guy had dustbunny collection he wasn't willing to give up to follow god it would be the same result. But the more you have the harder it can be to let go of it.



I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean either.

The bible makes it clear that everyone constantly errors in following the scriptures. Paul who wrote most of the new testament said "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I don't do, but do what I hate I do." If everyone followed the scriptures literally perfectly, then there would be no need for a savior.

Because the religious right are much more likely to see religion as a money making scheme, and as a vehicle to promote their bigotry.

It still amazes me how many people on this planet believe religious scriptures & teachings 100% w/o question.

I don't think any religion necessarily preaches anything bad.. just that some of their teachings are quite unbelievable, because science. Also, it's funny that every hard lined religious person believes their faith is THE faith. Uh, they can't all be right.

There's good teachings from all. They were all founded by wise philosophers and teachers who intended to give people guidance and hope. All good things and all equally respectable. But it's still crazy to me how many people believe eons old fairytales written by men as a system of control not unlike government & law and order and live their lives by these books instead of by multiple influences of sound reasoning (which can include religious teachings!) combined with scientific reality.

What percentage of the religious right would you say that applies to?

I seriously don't know. There are for certain many good evangelicals. But it seems the worst religious charlatans and bigots have attached themselves to the evangelical movement in the same way they had with Catholicism in the Middle Ages, Renaissance, and Reformation eras.

It has been that way from the beginning.

24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.” - Matthew 13:24-28 NIV

It would seem that evangelicals are not the ones to blame in this matter. And I seriously doubt that the weeds exist only among evangelicals. Either that, or the evangelicals are the only good seed crop.

White conservative christians see themselves as the good crop and non-whites as weeds in society

Jesus hated the monoculturalism of judaism and why he preached to Romans and gentiles (which was considered blasphemy) and upheld the virtue of the "foreign" Samaritan who helped the wounded traveller and admonished the selfish Jewish pharisee who ignored the person in need

Trump and white conservative christians publicly declaring their christian bona fides certainly are behaving like the pharisees of old...

Sure, evangelicals aren't the only religious group to attract bad seeds. But bad evangelicals seem to be the ones getting the most attention, presumably because there is less centralization to reign them in within churches on the religious right.

Conservative Christianity does not consist of white people only, nor does it consist of racist white people only. There are millions upon millions of Black, Hispanic and Asian and non-racist white conservative Christians. What you're displaying is stuff out of your own imagination regarding Christianity and biblical interpretation. Even in the prosperity gospel Bill is talking about, many of its leaders are not white. One of its pioneers was Revrend Ike.

Don't most protestant denominations consist of the religious right? How many left Lutheran, Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal etc. churches are there in comparison to right?

Re: "Prosperity gospel." This thread is the first place I've ever heard that term or of these people. Is this like a super localized regional capitalist practice of Christianity?