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05 Jan 2019, 3:45 am

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there is IMHO not a critical mass of thoughtful people here in amuuuurica, sufficient for a representative democracy to function for very long, before degenerating into some kind of tyranny.


Hence the dangers of populism, as the angry masses can be controlled by a power seeking demagogue - like we have now.

I wonder how huey long would have turned out? the PTB snuffed him out early on, whereas the PTB are rewarding il trumpo for his fascist ways.


Long certainly scared a lot of people during his political career. My late dad had told me how there was talk of Washington state seceding if he got elected to the Presidency. His followers in Louisiana were of the opinion that Huey was more important than democracy. In comparison to Trump, Huey Long was a helluva lot smarter and competent.

what did Washington state have against Long?



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05 Jan 2019, 4:08 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
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there is IMHO not a critical mass of thoughtful people here in amuuuurica, sufficient for a representative democracy to function for very long, before degenerating into some kind of tyranny.


Hence the dangers of populism, as the angry masses can be controlled by a power seeking demagogue - like we have now.

I wonder how huey long would have turned out? the PTB snuffed him out early on, whereas the PTB are rewarding il trumpo for his fascist ways.


Long certainly scared a lot of people during his political career. My late dad had told me how there was talk of Washington state seceding if he got elected to the Presidency. His followers in Louisiana were of the opinion that Huey was more important than democracy. In comparison to Trump, Huey Long was a helluva lot smarter and competent.

what did Washington state have against Long?


I think many Washingtonians associated him with the fascists across the Atlantic.


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05 Jan 2019, 9:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
there is IMHO not a critical mass of thoughtful people here in amuuuurica, sufficient for a representative democracy to function for very long, before degenerating into some kind of tyranny.


Hence the dangers of populism, as the angry masses can be controlled by a power seeking demagogue - like we have now.

I wonder how huey long would have turned out? the PTB snuffed him out early on, whereas the PTB are rewarding il trumpo for his fascist ways.


Long certainly scared a lot of people during his political career. My late dad had told me how there was talk of Washington state seceding if he got elected to the Presidency. His followers in Louisiana were of the opinion that Huey was more important than democracy. In comparison to Trump, Huey Long was a helluva lot smarter and competent.

what did Washington state have against Long?


I think many Washingtonians associated him with the fascists across the Atlantic.


My guess is that it had to do with Long being from Louisiana, which for decades, was a big hotbed for corruption.


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06 Jan 2019, 1:15 am

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auntblabby wrote:
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there is IMHO not a critical mass of thoughtful people here in amuuuurica, sufficient for a representative democracy to function for very long, before degenerating into some kind of tyranny.


Hence the dangers of populism, as the angry masses can be controlled by a power seeking demagogue - like we have now.

I wonder how huey long would have turned out? the PTB snuffed him out early on, whereas the PTB are rewarding il trumpo for his fascist ways.


Long certainly scared a lot of people during his political career. My late dad had told me how there was talk of Washington state seceding if he got elected to the Presidency. His followers in Louisiana were of the opinion that Huey was more important than democracy. In comparison to Trump, Huey Long was a helluva lot smarter and competent.

what did Washington state have against Long?


I think many Washingtonians associated him with the fascists across the Atlantic.


My guess is that it had to do with Long being from Louisiana, which for decades, was a big hotbed for corruption.


While that doubtlessly was part of it, I think the fear that Long was a populist demagogue was the primary reason.


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06 Jan 2019, 4:20 am

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auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
there is IMHO not a critical mass of thoughtful people here in amuuuurica, sufficient for a representative democracy to function for very long, before degenerating into some kind of tyranny.


Hence the dangers of populism, as the angry masses can be controlled by a power seeking demagogue - like we have now.

I wonder how huey long would have turned out? the PTB snuffed him out early on, whereas the PTB are rewarding il trumpo for his fascist ways.


Long certainly scared a lot of people during his political career. My late dad had told me how there was talk of Washington state seceding if he got elected to the Presidency. His followers in Louisiana were of the opinion that Huey was more important than democracy. In comparison to Trump, Huey Long was a helluva lot smarter and competent.

what did Washington state have against Long?


I think many Washingtonians associated him with the fascists across the Atlantic.

sorta like how many MAGAs somehow see "Nazi" in liberals, I suppose.



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06 Jan 2019, 4:42 am

I looked up Long and he seems to have had some good ideas. The corporates and oil interests didn't like him.


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06 Jan 2019, 10:57 am

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
there is IMHO not a critical mass of thoughtful people here in amuuuurica, sufficient for a representative democracy to function for very long, before degenerating into some kind of tyranny.


Hence the dangers of populism, as the angry masses can be controlled by a power seeking demagogue - like we have now.

I wonder how huey long would have turned out? the PTB snuffed him out early on, whereas the PTB are rewarding il trumpo for his fascist ways.


Long certainly scared a lot of people during his political career. My late dad had told me how there was talk of Washington state seceding if he got elected to the Presidency. His followers in Louisiana were of the opinion that Huey was more important than democracy. In comparison to Trump, Huey Long was a helluva lot smarter and competent.

what did Washington state have against Long?


I think many Washingtonians associated him with the fascists across the Atlantic.

sorta like how many MAGAs somehow see "Nazi" in liberals, I suppose.


Maybe.


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06 Jan 2019, 11:45 pm

If a Republican candidate had this in the background of their video, they would have to drop out of the race in 5 minutes. But its perfectly OK when when its in the background of a Democrat's video :roll: : Image
I really couldn't care less. Its just the hypocrisy that bothers me.


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And the point is...?


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And the point is...?

She's was a POC ....

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And the point is...?

She's was a POC ....

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It's what that periodical stated. She has said she isn't. Such as I have a little Jewish background, but have never claimed that I'm a Jew (despite the fact that milk is giving me gas as I get older).


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The US may have had a non-white president, but I know the government doesn't want a female president ever. Never mind that there have been female presidents and leaders in other countries.

Of course, gender alone does not make a good leader.


Agreed. A good solid conservative women or libertarian women could be an interesting first female president.


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Kraichgauer wrote:
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And the point is...?

She's was a POC ....

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It's what that periodical stated. She has said she isn't. Such as I have a little Jewish background, but have never claimed that I'm a Jew (despite the fact that milk is giving me gas as I get older).


She goes on about being a Cherokee to the point where she takes a DNA test to prove it - and yet the Fordham Law Review decided to call her a person of color on its own without any imput from her? Unlikely. More likely she was posing as Native American woman of color. She and she alone has been actively behind this from the 1995 Harvard law school hiring to the 2018 failed DNA test. Now she as a white person is having to go around proclaiming that she's (obviously) not a person of color. ...And this is all supposed to be someone elses fault.



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And the point is...?

She's was a POC ....

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It's what that periodical stated. She has said she isn't. Such as I have a little Jewish background, but have never claimed that I'm a Jew (despite the fact that milk is giving me gas as I get older).


She goes on about being a Cherokee to the point where she takes a DNA test to prove it - and yet the Fordham Law Review decided to call her a person of color on its own without any imput from her? Unlikely. More likely she was posing as Native American woman of color. She and she alone has been actively behind this from the 1995 Harvard law school hiring to the 2018 failed DNA test. Now she as a white person is having to go around proclaiming that she's (obviously) not a person of color. ...And this is all supposed to be someone elses fault.


If she did, it was only because of what her family had told her. It hardly means she was purposely deceitful, say like Trump claiming he's a self made billionaire (he isn't self made, let alone a real billionaire).


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Kraichgauer wrote:
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And the point is...?

She's was a POC ....

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It's what that periodical stated. She has said she isn't. Such as I have a little Jewish background, but have never claimed that I'm a Jew (despite the fact that milk is giving me gas as I get older).


She goes on about being a Cherokee to the point where she takes a DNA test to prove it - and yet the Fordham Law Review decided to call her a person of color on its own without any imput from her? Unlikely. More likely she was posing as Native American woman of color. She and she alone has been actively behind this from the 1995 Harvard law school hiring to the 2018 failed DNA test. Now she as a white person is having to go around proclaiming that she's (obviously) not a person of color. ...And this is all supposed to be someone elses fault.


If she did, it was only because of what her family had told her. It hardly means she was purposely deceitful, say like Trump claiming he's a self made billionaire (he isn't self made, let alone a real billionaire).


Lots of white families have stories of a native american ancestor. Even mine does. But next to none of us has ever or will ever be referred to as a person of color or get a DNA test to prove we have a smattering Native American... unless we go around saying we are native americans. One reason why I would never think about calling myself a Sioux, is because the native american people have a rich heritage that I am not a part of and have suffered greatly in ways that I have never been a part of.

Now I don't think this is any big deal or major outrage. But I'm sure not going to mind her getting lampooned over it.