19 Jan 2019, 3:09 am
19 Jan 2019, 3:12 am
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Your point was that the same false alarm climate change warnings taking place in the 70's are like the ones currently?
Yes. It's 2019, the data is not congruent, the 70's saw more ozone depletion & now the issue is primarily Caebon dioxide.
And later on it will be something else. "Scientists have uncovered new data that radically alters what they've been saying for decades". Seems I hear or read a statement to that effect mighty often.
Are you just pretending to be stupid to get a rise out of us?
I'll maybe respond to you in the future if you quit using demeaning pejoratives.
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19 Jan 2019, 3:13 am
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@EzraS What proofs do you need to admit climate changes? Seem to me that there is more than enough.
Of course there's climate change. There's always been climate change. Dramatic climate changes and climate anomalies that have occurred way before it could be said that the cause was man made.
What you're asking is what proofs do I need that doomsday is around the corner.
Do you honesty believe that we can continue to deplete the Earth's resources at ever increasing rates w/o consequence?
In the late 70's when they first measured we depleted renewable resources a day or two shy of a year - we consumed what the planet could replenish. Now we hit that point by August, which means for the last 4 months of the year we're depleting renewable resources that the Earth cannot sustainably replace.
Is it beyond your ability to think critically about what the implications of this may be for the environment of the planet we depend on for survival?
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goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
@EzraS What proofs do you need to admit climate changes? Seem to me that there is more than enough.
Of course there's climate change. There's always been climate change. Dramatic climate changes and climate anomalies that have occurred way before it could be said that the cause was man made.
What you're asking is what proofs do I need that doomsday is around the corner.
Do you honesty believe that we can continue to deplete the Earth's resources at ever increasing rates w/o consequence?
In the late 70's when they first measured we depleted renewable resources a day or two shy of a year - we consumed what the planet could replenish. Now we hit that point by August, which means for the last 4 months of the year we're depleting renewable resources that the Earth cannot sustainably replace.
Is it beyond your ability to think critically about what the implications of this may be for the environment of the planet we depend on for survival?
I'd say according to you I'm too juvenile and stupid to be able to debate with the guy who discovered the cause and cure of autism.
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19 Jan 2019, 11:31 am
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
@EzraS What proofs do you need to admit climate changes? Seem to me that there is more than enough.
Of course there's climate change. There's always been climate change. Dramatic climate changes and climate anomalies that have occurred way before it could be said that the cause was man made.
What you're asking is what proofs do I need that doomsday is around the corner.
Do you honesty believe that we can continue to deplete the Earth's resources at ever increasing rates w/o consequence?
In the late 70's when they first measured we depleted renewable resources a day or two shy of a year - we consumed what the planet could replenish. Now we hit that point by August, which means for the last 4 months of the year we're depleting renewable resources that the Earth cannot sustainably replace.
Is it beyond your ability to think critically about what the implications of this may be for the environment of the planet we depend on for survival?
I'd say according to you I'm too juvenile and stupid to be able to debate with the guy who discovered the cause and cure of autism.
Too juvenile to answer the question, I see.
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19 Jan 2019, 11:33 am
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No, it's anti-right wing propaganda. The political right has for years been merging with the religious right, in which the abhorrent dominionist theology (that animals and the natural world are here to do with what we will) has been adopted more and more by the mainstream right. If you as a conservative want to save any semblance of goodness and sanity, I'd suggest you fight against this.
So it's not just anti-trump scare tactics but of course anti-conservative scare tactics, which brings me around to a conclusion I drew a long time ago that's, "vote democrat or the planet is doomed". That is what you're saying essentially. That's an obvious conclusion I was able to draw on my own.
You could vote independent and save the planet, too.
But what we do know is that your "conservative," party doesn't want to conserve anything. They want to drill, cut, mine, and burn as fast as they can to further enrich themselves and their friends while completely ignoring every scientist on the planet that's telling them if they continue on this path they're going to destroy humanity's ability to inhabit this planet.
Non-conservative votes are basically a vote for science, common sense, and giving humans a fighting chance of survival.
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19 Jan 2019, 8:08 pm
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's anti-right wing propaganda. The political right has for years been merging with the religious right, in which the abhorrent dominionist theology (that animals and the natural world are here to do with what we will) has been adopted more and more by the mainstream right. If you as a conservative want to save any semblance of goodness and sanity, I'd suggest you fight against this.
So it's not just anti-trump scare tactics but of course anti-conservative scare tactics, which brings me around to a conclusion I drew a long time ago that's, "vote democrat or the planet is doomed". That is what you're saying essentially. That's an obvious conclusion I was able to draw on my own.
What Goldfish said.
I'm not reading goldfish's posts due to all his personal attacks.
Then I suppose you'll never know.
19 Jan 2019, 8:14 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's anti-right wing propaganda. The political right has for years been merging with the religious right, in which the abhorrent dominionist theology (that animals and the natural world are here to do with what we will) has been adopted more and more by the mainstream right. If you as a conservative want to save any semblance of goodness and sanity, I'd suggest you fight against this.
So it's not just anti-trump scare tactics but of course anti-conservative scare tactics, which brings me around to a conclusion I drew a long time ago that's, "vote democrat or the planet is doomed". That is what you're saying essentially. That's an obvious conclusion I was able to draw on my own.
What Goldfish said.
I'm not reading goldfish's posts due to all his personal attacks.
Then I suppose you'll never know.
Why not speak for yourself?
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19 Jan 2019, 8:23 pm
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's anti-right wing propaganda. The political right has for years been merging with the religious right, in which the abhorrent dominionist theology (that animals and the natural world are here to do with what we will) has been adopted more and more by the mainstream right. If you as a conservative want to save any semblance of goodness and sanity, I'd suggest you fight against this.
So it's not just anti-trump scare tactics but of course anti-conservative scare tactics, which brings me around to a conclusion I drew a long time ago that's, "vote democrat or the planet is doomed". That is what you're saying essentially. That's an obvious conclusion I was able to draw on my own.
What Goldfish said.
I'm not reading goldfish's posts due to all his personal attacks.
Then I suppose you'll never know.
Why not speak for yourself?
Goldfish said it all.
19 Jan 2019, 8:55 pm
19 Jan 2019, 9:02 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's anti-right wing propaganda. The political right has for years been merging with the religious right, in which the abhorrent dominionist theology (that animals and the natural world are here to do with what we will) has been adopted more and more by the mainstream right. If you as a conservative want to save any semblance of goodness and sanity, I'd suggest you fight against this.
So it's not just anti-trump scare tactics but of course anti-conservative scare tactics, which brings me around to a conclusion I drew a long time ago that's, "vote democrat or the planet is doomed". That is what you're saying essentially. That's an obvious conclusion I was able to draw on my own.
What Goldfish said.
I'm not reading goldfish's posts due to all his personal attacks.
Then I suppose you'll never know.
Why not speak for yourself?
Goldfish said it all.
So you're only discussing matters via proxy now?
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19 Jan 2019, 9:07 pm
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's anti-right wing propaganda. The political right has for years been merging with the religious right, in which the abhorrent dominionist theology (that animals and the natural world are here to do with what we will) has been adopted more and more by the mainstream right. If you as a conservative want to save any semblance of goodness and sanity, I'd suggest you fight against this.
So it's not just anti-trump scare tactics but of course anti-conservative scare tactics, which brings me around to a conclusion I drew a long time ago that's, "vote democrat or the planet is doomed". That is what you're saying essentially. That's an obvious conclusion I was able to draw on my own.
What Goldfish said.
I'm not reading goldfish's posts due to all his personal attacks.
Then I suppose you'll never know.
Why not speak for yourself?
Goldfish said it all.
So you're only discussing matters via proxy now?
No, actually my wife is almost done with dinner, and I'm waiting for the laundry to get done, and so I'm a bit too distracted to rewrite everything Goldfish said in my own words.
