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28 Feb 2019, 11:42 am

I want to see how this experiment goes. Took 5 pages to get here.

Where'd the OP say he was getting the spray from? How much does it cost?

We'll have to see what happens over the next few months.



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28 Feb 2019, 1:05 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
I want to see how this experiment goes. Took 5 pages to get here.

Where'd the OP say he was getting the spray from? How much does it cost?

We'll have to see what happens over the next few months.


I am the OP. I feel it is my right to experiment on myself. That is how I learn things. So I am not advocating this at the moment for anyone else.

I am purchasing the nasal spray through Amazon. It is called "Pure Oxytocin Nasal Spray 60ml v2.0 - Human Grade - Anti-Anxiety" Sold by: Khemcorp. The total cost was $48.55


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28 Feb 2019, 1:17 pm

jimmy m wrote:
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
I want to see how this experiment goes. Took 5 pages to get here.

Where'd the OP say he was getting the spray from? How much does it cost?

We'll have to see what happens over the next few months.


I am the OP. I feel it is my right to experiment on myself. That is how I learn things. So I am not advocating this at the moment for anyone else.

I am purchasing the nasal spray through Amazon. It is called "Pure Oxytocin Nasal Spray 60ml v2.0 - Human Grade - Anti-Anxiety" Sold by: Khemcorp. The total cost was $48.55


Is it homeopathic? Whats the ingredients ?


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28 Feb 2019, 2:33 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
Is it homeopathic? Whats the ingredients?


According to the page description on Amazon:
"This product is only for aromatherapy or nasal uptake. Not for consumption or topical application.
Statements regarding dietary supplements have not been evaluated by the FDA and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or health condition."

The definition of homeopathic [Homeopathy or homœopathy is a system of alternative medicine created in 1796 by Samuel Hahnemann, based on his doctrine of like cures like, a claim that a substance that causes the symptoms of a disease in healthy people would cure similar symptoms in sick people. - For example, if someone was violently allergic to bee stings, a homeopathic treatment would be using the venom of bees in small doses on the patient. I don't agree with that philosophy.] So based on that definition, I would say NO. I would put it in the category similar to essential oils used in aromatherapy. It would fall within the FDA provision of dietary supplement.

What are the ingredients? The primary ingredient is oxytocin or a man-made or natural version of the peptide. Since this peptide degrades rapidly with temperature, they added a binding agent to slow this degradation. I do not know what binding agent they used.


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28 Feb 2019, 6:28 pm

Thanks , good luck with your experiment Jimmy.


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06 Mar 2019, 11:59 pm

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I have received an email that the Oxytocin Nasal Spray is being shipped. The packet contained a certificate of analysis from a testing lab in California using a chromatogram of the assay preparation. And the lab report was signed by the laboratory director. Also I received instructions on storage and use. It degrades above 30 degrees C. [86 degrees F.] Storage in refrigerator not freezer. The directions for administering are detailed in the email file. "The way you spray has a huge impact on whether or not you will experience the effects or not."

They recommend taking a dose once every 3 or 4 hours.
There is an optimum dose. Too much oxytocin will not generate pro-social effects. If you feel dizzy or sleepy, you are dosing too much. Recommended dose of one spray per dose for the first 4 weeks, 2 for the next 4 weeks and then 3 after 8 weeks.


:lol: Thanks for making my day.


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07 Mar 2019, 10:15 am

I received the nasal spray a couple days ago. It took 11 days to receive from the time I ordered it. Which is rather good considering it originated in China. I immediately placed it in the fridge for cold storage. It degrades quickly under warm/high temperature.

It seems that the proper application is critical to usage. Apparently if it is not applied correctly, it will dribble down the back of the throat and burn a little and also as a result the minimal dosage will have little effect. As a result the manufacturer supplied (5 page long) detailed usage directions with visuals.

Within the body, there is a range of oxytocin levels in the blood supply. This is the normal plasma range. When oxytocin is depleted anti-social behavior becomes more evident. Therefore supplementing levels back into the normal range should restore normal functioning. I see its role similar to a rescue inhaler for an asthmatic, a means to break the devastation caused by panic attacks, major meltdowns and "tonic immobility".


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07 Mar 2019, 10:46 am

Please research side effects before taking


It sounds to me, like it would be necessary to measure each particular person's oxytocin



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07 Mar 2019, 2:46 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Please research side effects before taking
It sounds to me, like it would be necessary to measure each particular person's oxytocin


The following link describes research testing using intranasal oxytocin on children with autism. Their conclusion was Oxytocin treatment in children with ASD was well tolerated with minimal side effects. Table S2 provides all reported adverse events during the 4 week trial. The only adverse event that seems a little high was "Nasal congestion" where 3 out of 14 participates (21%) reported problems. Which I suspect is related to the way the oxytocin was administered during the trials.
Intranasal oxytocin treatment for social deficits and biomarkers of response in children with autism

Another area that the study looked at was concomitant medication being used by the children involved. This is listed in Table S1.


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11 Mar 2019, 8:29 am

I came across an interesting article today related to oxytocin.

Couples with one specific gene more likely to report happy marriages, according to Yale study

When it comes to making a marriage last, sometimes it takes more than just healthy communication.

A new study from Yale University found that married people who have a gene called GG genotype, which produces love hormone oxytocin, are more likely to report higher satisfaction in their marriages.

Researchers surveyed 178 married couples ages 37 to 90 years old. Participants were asked to take a survey about their marriages and turned in saliva samples for genotyping.

The study saw that when at least one person in the marriage had the GG genotype, OXTR rs53576, the couple was more likely to report higher levels of relationship satisfaction and security than couples with different genes.


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24 Mar 2019, 11:41 pm

See? It's all about the chemistry. :)


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25 Jun 2020, 7:23 am

jimmy m wrote:
I am the OP. I feel it is my right to experiment on myself. That is how I learn things. So I am not advocating this at the moment for anyone else.

I am purchasing the nasal spray through Amazon. It is called "Pure Oxytocin Nasal Spray 60ml v2.0 - Human Grade - Anti-Anxiety" Sold by: Khemcorp. The total cost was $48.55

Hey jimmy -- you never posted the results of your experiment, at least no results that I could find. I'm very curious if you ever tried it?

A doctor of mine threw out the idea of potentially trying oxytocin if other therapies don't work. So I'm curious if anyone here has ever tried it? We're trying to create a better bond between my wife and I and my body doesn't produce the normal amounts of dopamine...



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25 Jun 2020, 7:49 am

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jimmy m wrote:
I am the OP. I feel it is my right to experiment on myself. That is how I learn things. So I am not advocating this at the moment for anyone else.

I am purchasing the nasal spray through Amazon. It is called "Pure Oxytocin Nasal Spray 60ml v2.0 - Human Grade - Anti-Anxiety" Sold by: Khemcorp. The total cost was $48.55

Hey jimmy -- you never posted the results of your experiment, at least no results that I could find. I'm very curious if you ever tried it?

A doctor of mine threw out the idea of potentially trying oxytocin if other therapies don't work. So I'm curious if anyone here has ever tried it? We're trying to create a better bond between my wife and I and my body doesn't produce the normal amounts of dopamine...


I bought it and tried it. I noticed no difference. But I am an anomaly. I have learned to offload stress and as a result I do not suffer from a deficiency of oxytocin. So if you suffer from excessive levels of stress and anxiety, if you have major melt downs or panic attacks, it may be worth a try.


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25 Jun 2020, 7:55 am

Appreciate the response. Sorry it didn't work for you!



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26 Jun 2020, 10:10 am

Oxytocin is not the live hormone.

This stuff is complicated and it never ends well when people that don't understand the concepts start extrapolating meaning.

These things are complicated. Serotonin is not the happyness neurotransmitter. Dopamine is not the feel good transmitter.

Armchair scientists need to get a standing desk



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killerBunny wrote:
Oxytocin is not the live hormone.

This stuff is complicated and it never ends well when people that don't understand the concepts start extrapolating meaning.

These things are complicated. Serotonin is not the happyness neurotransmitter. Dopamine is not the feel good transmitter.

Armchair scientists need to get a standing desk


Oh but it really is the best way to learn about something. Life is not all about text books. The answers are not always there for the taking. This is the best approach for INTJ personalities.


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