El Paso mall shooting: At least 15 dead, 1 in custody

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Nope....Connor Betts is a "confirmed leftist"----the Trump thing won't happen with him. There's the sense that he was "a nut all on his own."

The Crosius guy had sort of an obsession with Trump and with immigration policies----so there will be some people who will blame Trump for "creating an atmosphere conducive" to this sort of act.

For what it is worth he made it clear in writing that Trump had nothing to do with it. And he was blaming Republicans for the problems he saw.

He didn't blame Trump----and people won't blame Trump directly. That would be absurd.

But there will be "blame" attached to Trump for "creating an atmosphere conducive to the conditions which this country is facing now (e.g. mass murders)."

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He had a sort of Trumpian view on this...…

That the news media are mostly a bunch of liberals who disseminate "fake news."

I, myself, am not blaming Trump or his policies for this. This guy came up with his crap all on his own.

I do not think Trump necessarily coined the term fake news. For instance way before Trump Fox was being called Faux news.

Anything is possible but unless somebody comes up with evidence this is a false flag or Russian instigated etc. why discuss it. People are capable of becoming white separatist terrorists all on their own.

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Based on his manifesto I think white separatist is probably a more accurate term for him than white nationalist. He wrote hispanics can be useful, his whole thing is race mixing is bad, the US needs to be split up based on race.

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I have a felling that there are many from every race who despise race mixing.

I’ve only met a few people who are actively hostile to “race mixing.”

It seems like the motive for the killing may be driven by radical environmentalism.

According to the manifesto he posted on-line shortly before Saturday's massacre he wrote:

“The environment is getting worse by the year,” the manifesto reads. “Most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.”

He seems to share this view with another mass murderer Brenton Tarrant.

The manifesto explicitly cites the 74-page message posted online by the gunman charged with killing 51 worshippers at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, in March. That alleged shooter, Brenton Tarrant, a 28-year-old white Australian, thrice described himself as an “eco-fascist” motivated to repel waves of migrants fleeing climate change-ravaged regions of the world.

Source: El Paso Terrorism Suspect’s Alleged Manifesto Highlights Eco-Fascism’s Revival

So the younger generation is being told that global warming will mean they will be the last generation on Earth. The extinction clock is ticking. That there is no hope left. And as a result those under the influence of radical environmentalism both on the right (eco-fascist) and on the left (such as Extinction Rebellion) are coming out of the woodwork.

Those people are known as racists.

^^ That's absolutely correct

He also was angry about immigrants, legal and illegal and angry about race mixing..so it kind of seems it was various extremist ideologies that influenced him.

That said Global Warming very well could mean that if it's not addressed...and I don't think Extinction Rebellion is an extremist group, they encourage peaceful protest not violence.

This guy seemed to have spent considerable time on the Internet trying to justify his views through "collaboration" with those who espouse the ideologies he believe in.

...The El Paso death toll is up to 22 now .

If they were a peaceful non-violent group then why would they threaten to close down Heathrow airport using drones to do so? If a drone flew into an aircraft it can cause a crash. How many lives would be lost if they "accidentally" destroy a 747? A Boeing 747 can carry between 416 and 660 passengers depending on the specific model. That would be an awful lot of innocent lives lost. This is definitely at variance with their stated peaceful goals.

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A larger excerpt from a manifesto believed to be from the El Paso Walmart shooter (Patrick Crusius) which was titled "An Inconvenient Truth" reads:

The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources… Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands … most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.