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10 Oct 2019, 2:09 am

EzraS wrote:
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[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


Uh, no. Cyberdad and I are not closet racists projecting our subconscious bigotry onto black and brown people. In fact, the real racism today is the denial that racism exists and hurts great numbers of people, or that the real racism is against whites.


So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.


Just that we hate racism.


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10 Oct 2019, 2:12 am

JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


I think the insinuation that black and brown people are just the same with the same views gave the game away. Some racist war monger virtue signalling for clown world CNN doesn't cancel out the CNN tool's support for apartheid.


No one said black and brown people all have the same views. No, they've just been mistreated over and over because of their skin color.
Where the Hell did you get the idea that CNN ever supported Apartheid? I'll remind you that South Africa adopted that policy when they were under the dominion of your country.


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10 Oct 2019, 2:16 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


Uh, no. Cyberdad and I are not closet racists projecting our subconscious bigotry onto black and brown people. In fact, the real racism today is the denial that racism exists and hurts great numbers of people, or that the real racism is against whites.


So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.


Just that we hate racism.


I can't help but think about what you said about closeted homosexuals always saying how much they hate homosexuality to the Nth degree.



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10 Oct 2019, 2:21 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


I think the insinuation that black and brown people are just the same with the same views gave the game away. Some racist war monger virtue signalling for clown world CNN doesn't cancel out the CNN tool's support for apartheid.


No one said black and brown people all have the same views. No, they've just been mistreated over and over because of their skin color.
Where the Hell did you get the idea that CNN ever supported Apartheid? I'll remind you that South Africa adopted that policy when they were under the dominion of your country.


John Powell said that Zakaria supported apartheid and you said that couldn't be the case because Zakaria is brown.



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10 Oct 2019, 2:28 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


I think the insinuation that black and brown people are just the same with the same views gave the game away. Some racist war monger virtue signalling for clown world CNN doesn't cancel out the CNN tool's support for apartheid.


No one said black and brown people all have the same views. No, they've just been mistreated over and over because of their skin color.
Where the Hell did you get the idea that CNN ever supported Apartheid? I'll remind you that South Africa adopted that policy when they were under the dominion of your country.


John Powell said that Zakaria supported apartheid and you said that couldn't be the case because Zakaria is brown.


I simply brought up the fact that under Apartheid Zachariah would have been viewed as a second class human being. The implication being that it was rather unlikely that he would support Apartheid. What's so insidious about pointing that out?


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10 Oct 2019, 2:33 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


Uh, no. Cyberdad and I are not closet racists projecting our subconscious bigotry onto black and brown people. In fact, the real racism today is the denial that racism exists and hurts great numbers of people, or that the real racism is against whites.


So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.


Just that we hate racism.


I can't help but think about what you said about closeted homosexuals always saying how much they hate homosexuality to the Nth degree.


It can be argued in turn that by taking a negative view of those of us with anti-racist beliefs, you are defending bigotry.
While plenty of homophobes have been outed for hiding their secret lives behind their hatred of gays out of shame for their own homosexuality, I have yet to hear of any racist pretending to be against racism.


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10 Oct 2019, 2:54 am

EzraS wrote:
So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.

In another thread you asked about the Kurd's ethnicity out of the blue in a discussion about politics. You seem to want to somehow assess the Kurdish question from an ethnic perspective because that what matters to you (despite pretending it doesn't). Like when I posted about Dominicans and you were at great pains to point out (out of the blue) that your Dominican aunt didn't have a drop of African blood? as if that mattered :roll: did she have to provide your uncle a family history?

My point is that you bring up this stuff for your own reasons on a regular basis.



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10 Oct 2019, 3:36 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


Uh, no. Cyberdad and I are not closet racists projecting our subconscious bigotry onto black and brown people. In fact, the real racism today is the denial that racism exists and hurts great numbers of people, or that the real racism is against whites.


So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.


Just that we hate racism.


I can't help but think about what you said about closeted homosexuals always saying how much they hate homosexuality to the Nth degree.


It can be argued in turn that by taking a negative view of those of us with anti-racist beliefs, you are defending bigotry.
While plenty of homophobes have been outed for hiding their secret lives behind their hatred of gays out of shame for their own homosexuality, I have yet to hear of any racist pretending to be against racism.


That's not the case here since most here have anti-racist beliefs. However they don't bring up skin color and racism continuously. If I were to search everyone's posting history for the words racism black brown and white, I would probably get more hits on just you or cyberdad alone, than everyone else combined.



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10 Oct 2019, 4:02 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.

In another thread you asked about the Kurd's ethnicity out of the blue in a discussion about politics. You seem to want to somehow assess the Kurdish question from an ethnic perspective because that what matters to you (despite pretending it doesn't).



No Bill said ethnic cleansing. He is the one who introduced ethnicity into the conversation. After ethnic cleansing was mentioned two more times, I finally asked what ethnicity the Kurds were supposed to be. Then you asked me why I was the one bringing ethnicity into it LOL. Of course it was Bill who brought up ethnicity first. And only because he beat you to it.

cyberdad wrote:
Like when I posted about Dominicans and you were at great pains to point out (out of the blue) that your Dominican aunt didn't have a drop of African blood? as if that mattered :roll: did she have to provide your uncle a family history?



No just I like with replying to Bill's ethnic cleansing comments I did not bring it up out of the blue.

I was responding to what you said about Dominicans calling themselves white even though they are a mix of brown and black. You as usual were the one who brought up brown black and white - I just responded to it.

cyberdad wrote:
My point is that you bring up this stuff for your own reasons on a regular basis.


As shown above your point is pure nonsense.



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10 Oct 2019, 4:08 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


I think the insinuation that black and brown people are just the same with the same views gave the game away. Some racist war monger virtue signalling for clown world CNN doesn't cancel out the CNN tool's support for apartheid.


No one said black and brown people all have the same views. No, they've just been mistreated over and over because of their skin color.
Where the Hell did you get the idea that CNN ever supported Apartheid? I'll remind you that South Africa adopted that policy when they were under the dominion of your country.


John Powell said that Zakaria supported apartheid and you said that couldn't be the case because Zakaria is brown.


A lot of Muslims in the Gulf states support apartheid in Palestine even though they would face the same treatment if they were living in the West Bank. CNN is fine with apartheid in Palestine though and pushes propaganda that kills millions of brown people.


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10 Oct 2019, 3:50 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ Remember that Asian woman you were chastising for what she said about black people? The idea that people of color flock tougher is a misnomer and is in its own way is a racist those people kind of thing.


There are also black people who criticise their own community and align themselves with white America. One of these types attacked Malcolm X during one of his speeches at Harvard. He asked the man what he thinks white folk call him behind his back. The man rolled his eyes and said "obviously Professor" in a condescending manner. As if the title magically protected him from racism, Malxolm X reminded him that when he walks off the campus all he'll be considered is just another n**ger to the wider population. And he was of course right (at least in the 1960s).

Like the Asian lady any brown skinned person can sell their dignity to ingratiate themselves with white conservatives who are mostly happy to accept them as honorary second class citizens. But there is always a trade off...


That same thing happens when black mixes with brown as I pointed out and white mixes with black and brown and so on. Do you think my white uncles integrating with brown and black is any different? Do think brown and black people don't look down on them and down on my cousins for being half white?

But your thing like Bill's is always referring to people of color as inferior as second class citizens etc, which you both project that onto others, but you two are the ones it is coming from on a daily basis. One can't help but see latant or closeted racism in it.


I think the insinuation that black and brown people are just the same with the same views gave the game away. Some racist war monger virtue signalling for clown world CNN doesn't cancel out the CNN tool's support for apartheid.


No one said black and brown people all have the same views. No, they've just been mistreated over and over because of their skin color.
Where the Hell did you get the idea that CNN ever supported Apartheid? I'll remind you that South Africa adopted that policy when they were under the dominion of your country.


John Powell said that Zakaria supported apartheid and you said that couldn't be the case because Zakaria is brown.


A lot of Muslims in the Gulf states support apartheid in Palestine even though they would face the same treatment if they were living in the West Bank. CNN is fine with apartheid in Palestine though and pushes propaganda that kills millions of brown people.


Zachariah is from India, not the Gulf States.
Who says Israel is in favor of Apartheid in Israel or anywhere? They just report then news.


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10 Oct 2019, 3:54 pm

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.

In another thread you asked about the Kurd's ethnicity out of the blue in a discussion about politics. You seem to want to somehow assess the Kurdish question from an ethnic perspective because that what matters to you (despite pretending it doesn't).



No Bill said ethnic cleansing. He is the one who introduced ethnicity into the conversation. After ethnic cleansing was mentioned two more times, I finally asked what ethnicity the Kurds were supposed to be. Then you asked me why I was the one bringing ethnicity into it LOL. Of course it was Bill who brought up ethnicity first. And only because he beat you to it.

cyberdad wrote:
Like when I posted about Dominicans and you were at great pains to point out (out of the blue) that your Dominican aunt didn't have a drop of African blood? as if that mattered :roll: did she have to provide your uncle a family history?



No just I like with replying to Bill's ethnic cleansing comments I did not bring it up out of the blue.

I was responding to what you said about Dominicans calling themselves white even though they are a mix of brown and black. You as usual were the one who brought up brown black and white - I just responded to it.

cyberdad wrote:
My point is that you bring up this stuff for your own reasons on a regular basis.


As shown above your point is pure nonsense.


My bringing up Ethnic Cleansing IS NOT the same thing as asking about someone's ethnicity to begin with! Ethnic cleansing is a phrase meaning to exterminate or to drive out a specific ethnic or national group by another. That is exactly what the Kurds neighbors have been doing to them for time immemorial. To deny this by saying I'm just obsessed with race or ethnicity is sheer nonsense, and is to deny what is happening to innocent people in what should be Kurdistan.


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10 Oct 2019, 4:07 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.

In another thread you asked about the Kurd's ethnicity out of the blue in a discussion about politics. You seem to want to somehow assess the Kurdish question from an ethnic perspective because that what matters to you (despite pretending it doesn't).



No Bill said ethnic cleansing. He is the one who introduced ethnicity into the conversation. After ethnic cleansing was mentioned two more times, I finally asked what ethnicity the Kurds were supposed to be. Then you asked me why I was the one bringing ethnicity into it LOL. Of course it was Bill who brought up ethnicity first. And only because he beat you to it.

cyberdad wrote:
Like when I posted about Dominicans and you were at great pains to point out (out of the blue) that your Dominican aunt didn't have a drop of African blood? as if that mattered :roll: did she have to provide your uncle a family history?



No just I like with replying to Bill's ethnic cleansing comments I did not bring it up out of the blue.

I was responding to what you said about Dominicans calling themselves white even though they are a mix of brown and black. You as usual were the one who brought up brown black and white - I just responded to it.

cyberdad wrote:
My point is that you bring up this stuff for your own reasons on a regular basis.


As shown above your point is pure nonsense.


My bringing up Ethnic Cleansing IS NOT the same thing as asking about someone's ethnicity to begin with! Ethnic cleansing is a phrase meaning to exterminate or to drive out a specific ethnic or national group by another. That is exactly what the Kurds neighbors have been doing to them for time immemorial. To deny this by saying I'm just obsessed with race or ethnicity is sheer nonsense, and is to deny what is happening to innocent people in what should be Kurdistan.


I did not ask about the Kurds ethnicity to begin with. I simply asked about it after you began talking about ethnic cleansing.



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10 Oct 2019, 4:15 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.

In another thread you asked about the Kurd's ethnicity out of the blue in a discussion about politics. You seem to want to somehow assess the Kurdish question from an ethnic perspective because that what matters to you (despite pretending it doesn't).



No Bill said ethnic cleansing. He is the one who introduced ethnicity into the conversation. After ethnic cleansing was mentioned two more times, I finally asked what ethnicity the Kurds were supposed to be. Then you asked me why I was the one bringing ethnicity into it LOL. Of course it was Bill who brought up ethnicity first. And only because he beat you to it.

cyberdad wrote:
Like when I posted about Dominicans and you were at great pains to point out (out of the blue) that your Dominican aunt didn't have a drop of African blood? as if that mattered :roll: did she have to provide your uncle a family history?



No just I like with replying to Bill's ethnic cleansing comments I did not bring it up out of the blue.

I was responding to what you said about Dominicans calling themselves white even though they are a mix of brown and black. You as usual were the one who brought up brown black and white - I just responded to it.

cyberdad wrote:
My point is that you bring up this stuff for your own reasons on a regular basis.


As shown above your point is pure nonsense.


My bringing up Ethnic Cleansing IS NOT the same thing as asking about someone's ethnicity to begin with! Ethnic cleansing is a phrase meaning to exterminate or to drive out a specific ethnic or national group by another. That is exactly what the Kurds neighbors have been doing to them for time immemorial. To deny this by saying I'm just obsessed with race or ethnicity is sheer nonsense, and is to deny what is happening to innocent people in what should be Kurdistan.


I did not ask about the Kurds ethnicity to begin with. I simply asked about it after you began talking about ethnic cleansing.


Yes, as I recall, was the basis of my argument that Trump has no right to throw them under the Turkish bus.


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10 Oct 2019, 4:54 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So there's nothing to read into you and especially cyberdad bringing up skin color in what seems most threads on a regular basis.

In another thread you asked about the Kurd's ethnicity out of the blue in a discussion about politics. You seem to want to somehow assess the Kurdish question from an ethnic perspective because that what matters to you (despite pretending it doesn't).



No Bill said ethnic cleansing. He is the one who introduced ethnicity into the conversation. After ethnic cleansing was mentioned two more times, I finally asked what ethnicity the Kurds were supposed to be. Then you asked me why I was the one bringing ethnicity into it LOL. Of course it was Bill who brought up ethnicity first. And only because he beat you to it.

cyberdad wrote:
Like when I posted about Dominicans and you were at great pains to point out (out of the blue) that your Dominican aunt didn't have a drop of African blood? as if that mattered :roll: did she have to provide your uncle a family history?



No just I like with replying to Bill's ethnic cleansing comments I did not bring it up out of the blue.

I was responding to what you said about Dominicans calling themselves white even though they are a mix of brown and black. You as usual were the one who brought up brown black and white - I just responded to it.

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My point is that you bring up this stuff for your own reasons on a regular basis.


As shown above your point is pure nonsense.


My bringing up Ethnic Cleansing IS NOT the same thing as asking about someone's ethnicity to begin with! Ethnic cleansing is a phrase meaning to exterminate or to drive out a specific ethnic or national group by another. That is exactly what the Kurds neighbors have been doing to them for time immemorial. To deny this by saying I'm just obsessed with race or ethnicity is sheer nonsense, and is to deny what is happening to innocent people in what should be Kurdistan.


I did not ask about the Kurds ethnicity to begin with. I simply asked about it after you began talking about ethnic cleansing.


Yes, as I recall, was the basis of my argument that Trump has no right to throw them under the Turkish bus.


The point is that I did not bring up ethnicity out of the blue as cyberdad is claiming. I only asked about it after ethnic cleansing had become a subject.