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14 Oct 2019, 4:50 am

The Texas legal system is arguably the worst for a place that isn't communist or Muslim-majority, assuming Uganda doesn't sign the revived LGBT death penalty bill into law.


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14 Oct 2019, 4:52 am

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Another hypocrisy, where’s the outrage when left burns books? Oh no it’s ok then. :roll:
Book burning is free select and righteous until non leftest do it then it’s horrible and evil.


Who ever said that? All books should be off limits for burning.

As should flags. But left burns both to silence from rest of the left.


Not everyone on the left.

Never seen any leftist here or in media speak out against it, always defending it. It’s their first amendment rights they say, it’s righteous.

“They deserved to be assaulted”

Etc etc. but talking to you is waste of time and pointless. I don’t forget how you treated me. You’ll never see anyone on the left as guilty of anything


I admit I sometimes let my temper get away from me in the heat of the moment, and I apologize if I've offended you unjustly. Thing is, arguments are a two way street, and I've had bad treatment aimed at me by WP members on the right, as well.


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14 Oct 2019, 5:26 am

funeralxempire wrote:
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I am so ashamed of being white.

I feel cursed being in this white skin.


Save for a few loons and suck ups, I doubt anyone seriously believes that.


I thought that's the way I'm supposed to feel.


White privilege isn't a reason to feel ashamed or personally guilty. You didn't choose for it to exist or create it. It's something to be aware of when you're hearing people who might not benefit from it describe their experience.

The concept has the problem ass backwards. The problem is not whites in general being treated as they are supposed to be it is people of color being treated unfairly at a higher rate. By saying White privilege one is saying by definition an issue all whites have. That is a judging a person by the color of their skin not the content of their character.

In 2019 it is a weaponized term meant to say because you are white, you can’t get it, thus disqualifying anything you have to say about race and related issues. That might not have been the intent of the people who created the concept but it being used and received that way was inevitable because it was flawed from the start.


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14 Oct 2019, 7:05 am

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Sigmund Freud once observed: They start burning books just before they're ready to start burning people (paraphrased from memory).


Heinrich Heine, not Sigmund Freud.


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14 Oct 2019, 7:44 am

Book burning is a manifestation borne of fascist minds.

No matter how much I hate Mein Kampf and its author, I wouldn’t burn it. It needs to remain something people can study as a lesson in history.

The struggle of a man who couldn’t get into art school, and who blamed this on the Jews.



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14 Oct 2019, 12:18 pm

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>invited to University to talk about her book

>spends entire talk berating white people

"why are you burning my book, you racists? Don't you know I'm non-white?"

Bookburning is bad no matter who does it, but acting as though this is motivated by her skin-colour rather than the things she says is disingenuous.

Indeed. Racist author writes racist book, spews racism in campus talk, and then is shocked — shocked, I tell you! — when students protest her racism. :roll:


Describing her experiencing dealing with racism isn't racist, no matter how many white supremacist snowflakes she triggers. :roll:

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funeralxempire wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I am so ashamed of being white.

I feel cursed being in this white skin.


Save for a few loons and suck ups, I doubt anyone seriously believes that.


I thought that's the way I'm supposed to feel.


White privilege isn't a reason to feel ashamed or personally guilty. You didn't choose for it to exist or create it. It's something to be aware of when you're hearing people who might not benefit from it describe their experience.

The concept has the problem ass backwards. The problem is not whites in general being treated as they are supposed to be it is people of color being treated unfairly at a higher rate. By saying White privilege one is saying by definition an issue all whites have. That is a judging a person by the color of their skin not the content of their character.

In 2019 it is a weaponized term meant to say because you are white, you can’t get it, thus disqualifying anything you have to say about race and related issues. That might not have been the intent of the people who created the concept but it being used and received that way was inevitable because it was flawed from the start.



I fail to see the problem with pointing out that some people are far less likely to experience certain struggles than other people. Throwing a temper tantrum when an obvious truth is pointed out won't alter how accurate the observation is. You aren't being judged as a person for someone to point out that you likely didn't experience some struggles, and it isn't unreasonable to suggest your opinion carries less weight when discussing those matters compared to someone who is more intimately familiar with the experience. Hysterical attempts to distract from this reality by screaming racism won't actually alter this reality.


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14 Oct 2019, 12:25 pm

sly279 wrote:
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Another hypocrisy, where’s the outrage when left burns books? Oh no it’s ok then. :roll:
Book burning is free select and righteous until non leftest do it then it’s horrible and evil.


Who ever said that? All books should be off limits for burning.

As should flags. But left burns both to silence from rest of the left.


Burning flags is a legitimate form of protest. I'd defend folks on the far-right if they've being condemned for it just as quickly as I'd defend folks I agree with. Unlike a book, a flag is merely a symbol that contains no knowledge, so the two aren't directly comparable.


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14 Oct 2019, 12:29 pm

EzraS wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I am so ashamed of being white.

I feel cursed being in this white skin.


Save for a few loons and suck ups, I doubt anyone seriously believes that.


I thought that's the way I'm supposed to feel.


White privilege isn't a reason to feel ashamed or personally guilty. You didn't choose for it to exist or create it. It's something to be aware of when you're hearing people who might not benefit from it describe their experience.


It's just that I keep reading on a daily basis about how evil white people are.


I'm sorry that's how you choose to interpret the concept. :?


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14 Oct 2019, 12:46 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
EzraS wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I am so ashamed of being white.

I feel cursed being in this white skin.


Save for a few loons and suck ups, I doubt anyone seriously believes that.


I thought that's the way I'm supposed to feel.


White privilege isn't a reason to feel ashamed or personally guilty. You didn't choose for it to exist or create it. It's something to be aware of when you're hearing people who might not benefit from it describe their experience.


It's just that I keep reading on a daily basis about how evil white people are.


I'm sorry that's how you choose to interpret the concept. :?


At least I can take some solace in that all my cousins are only half white.



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14 Oct 2019, 12:55 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I'm sorry that's how you choose to interpret the concept. :?


At least I can take some solace in that all my cousins are only half white.


I'm sorry you've got all that self-loathing, you might want to see a professional for help.


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14 Oct 2019, 12:56 pm

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I'm sorry that's how you choose to interpret the concept. :?


Isn't this usually called "victim blaming"?


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14 Oct 2019, 12:59 pm

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I'm sorry that's how you choose to interpret the concept. :?


Isn't this usually called "victim blaming"?


Who exactly is the victim here? :roll:

How dare that woman describe her experiences, she'll offend white supremacists and everyone knows how oppressed the poor white supremacists are.


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14 Oct 2019, 1:05 pm

"well, I'm sorry that you choose to take offense at X" seems pretty victim blaming-y to me.

And how about the white students forced to purchase a book and then attend a lecture supposedly talking about the book, only to be met with not talking about the book but instead a lecture berating them and their entire race?


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"well, I'm sorry that you choose to take offense at X" seems pretty victim blaming-y to me.

And how about the white students forced to purchase a book and then attend a lecture supposedly talking about the book, only to be met with not talking about the book but instead a lecture berating them and their entire race?


There isn't a victim to blame and I'm not playing along with your attempts to dishonestly pretend otherwise.

The author described her experience, as she's entitled to. If some people can't stand hearing her describe how being on the receiving end of racist attitudes was relevant to her experience that's their problem. It doesn't make them victims.


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There isn't a victim to blame and I'm not playing along with your attempts to dishonestly pretend otherwise.

The author described her experience, as she's entitled to. If some people can't stand hearing her describe how being on the receiving end of racist attitudes was relevant to her experience that's their problem. It doesn't make them victims.


Right, so if I was to publish an essay titled "my time among the blacks", in which I hang out with some urban criminal gang in Detroit like I'm David Attenborough studying some tribe down in the Amazon and I go on to draw the conclusion that "the blacks" are violent and stupid, which I then attribute to their race as a whole, you'd agree that that wasn't racist? Because otherwhise I'm not the one being dishonest here.


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14 Oct 2019, 1:49 pm

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The concept has the problem ass backwards. The problem is not whites in general being treated as they are supposed to be it is people of color being treated unfairly at a higher rate. By saying White privilege one is saying by definition an issue all whites have. That is a judging a person by the color of their skin not the content of their character.

In 2019 it is a weaponized term meant to say because you are white, you can’t get it, thus disqualifying anything you have to say about race and related issues. That might not have been the intent of the people who created the concept but it being used and received that way was inevitable because it was flawed from the start.


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I fail to see the problem with pointing out that some people are far less likely to experience certain struggles than other people. Throwing a temper tantrum when an obvious truth is pointed out won't alter how accurate the observation is. You aren't being judged as a person for someone to point out that you likely didn't experience some struggles, and it isn't unreasonable to suggest your opinion carries less weight when discussing those matters compared to someone who is more intimately familiar with the experience. Hysterical attempts to distract from this reality by screaming racism won't actually alter this reality.


There is no problem in any of that. The problem is using the wording “white privilege“ because by definition it is saying all whites are privileged which is stereotyping(not racism because it is not saying whites are inferior). In general white people will face less discrimination then people of color. But a white person that is a short man, autistic, has a physical disability, lives in Appalachia etc is more likely to be treated unfairly then a black Hollywood celebrity. The group privilege concept says incorrectly that these particular white peoples opinion carriy less or no weight, or needs to be checked automatically because they are white.


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