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26 Nov 2019, 8:33 am

I'm impressed with Dave Ramsey. LoveNotHate, you picked a winner.

https://www.ramseyeducation.com/

https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news ... ium=social

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26 Nov 2019, 8:49 am

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I'm impressed with Dave Ramsey. LoveNotHate, you picked a winner.

https://www.ramseyeducation.com/

https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news ... ium=social

To me, it's AMAZING .. people go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, some 1 million.

Really, sad.

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26 Nov 2019, 9:01 am

This is how absurd it's getting …

$280,000 for a college TUBA degree (play the TUBA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw8ZvFb4LZY

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26 Nov 2019, 9:25 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

cubedemon6073 wrote:

I'm impressed with Dave Ramsey. LoveNotHate, you picked a winner.

https://www.ramseyeducation.com/

https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news ... ium=social

To me, it's AMAZING .. people go hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, some 1 million.

Really, sad.

He is doing what I wish other conservatives would do.

He gives specific and alternate solutions which are concrete and specific. I actually may become fan.

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26 Nov 2019, 9:28 am

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This is how absurd it's getting …

$280,000 for a college TUBA degree (play the TUBA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw8ZvFb4LZY

That is absurd.

Tuba lessons...

https://takelessons.com/music/tuba-lessons

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26 Nov 2019, 4:02 pm

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One piece of advice that I was given which turned out to be s**t advice was follow your passion. ...
... And, what will be the financial reward? Will it enable one to live? Can one save with it?...

Careers to avoid:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2019/07/16/degrees-statistically-offer-lowest-salary/

1. Creative Arts or Creative Arts and Design
2. Agriculture
3. Communications
4. Psychology
5. English or English studies
6. Education
7. Social Studies
8. Biological Sciences
9. History and Philosophy
10. Nursing

If you are thinking about becoming a writer, or an artist, or reality TV or social media star, it's probably best to reconsider. Especially, don't let the fact that you are autistic influence your career choices, Temple Grandin has talked about this as well. Autism should not be a career: you shouldn't get into special education, social worker, psychology type of areas. Beefing up your personal skills is the way to go, don't take the easy route. Even being a car mechanic, a handyman, or a plumber, would be better than the jobs above.

Top 10 skills according to the World Economic Forum:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/21st-century-skills-future-jobs-students/
One can really see that neurotypical skills are trending down (e.g. coordinating with others, negotiation), whereas autistic skills are becoming more and more important (e.g. critical thinking, creativity).

Sure, the future is scary. But, frankly, from my angle as someone in the older generation, what I see lacking everywhere is "creativity applied to problem solving." Not to be overly critical, younger generation think that their job is to learn tools to apply to their jobs. When it comes to creating new concepts/ideas/approaches, or to find inspirations/correlations from other disciplines, they give up. You see it right here in the forum, too. People spend too much time talking about Trump and politics, even TV shows. I mean, when do you guys have time to acquire other skills? When do you guys have time to bounce your brains around with new ideas, to see things that no one else can see, to solve problems that no one else can solve?

The future is rather bright for people that are willing to invest in "creativity applied to problem solving." Unfortunately, a lot of people prefer to stay on the sideline. Com'on, the world doesn't stop moving forward. AI/robotic era is already here, we already live inside the Technological Singularity. The modern world is rather unforgiving. Younger people do have a choice. Make your choice, wisely.

Sorry, but I've already tried going the "practical route." It didn't work.

Now I'm going for an English degree because I'm tired of being miserable.

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26 Nov 2019, 4:04 pm

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Do you have a link to what you watch?

https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow/videos

This boomer will set your straight about your questions.

I watched this and I'm impressed with what he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5GXzQqBgKY

This is what I liked.

He laid out a specific plan.

And, he broke out the math.

This is very good.

Now....

a. Shouldn't they have been taught things like this when they were younger. If the Millenials are the way they are today then how did they get to be that way? My answer is that they wasn't taught s**t and given all sorts of overly-simplistic slogans and advice like "be yourself", "you can do anything you set your mind to", etc. The boomers were so focused on self-esteem (I agree with conservatives on the BS self-esteem movement) and academics that they didn't really teach them these other important things.

Now, you have them in classrooms with teachers and even some parents do this. "You don't want to work at McDonalds. Keep making F's and you will." Now, these younger gens associate working at McDonalds and other places like that as being considered dumb and ret*d. The boomers inadvertently presented working at McDonalds us for misfits just like riding the short bus is for those who are considered disabled and dumb.

They were conditioned by well meaning adults in their lives to see working at McDonalds as beneath them.

The millienial generation may suck but is it really their fault? Should we heap the whole pie of responsibility upon them? For a world they're ill prepared for? Or are the boomers the one who need to look in the mirrors themselves? Did the millenials fail or was it the boomers who failed? Failed to teach and raise properly and only giving meaningless slogans.

b. What is the cost of an apartment? If the cheapest apartment is out of her price range then is his plan realistic?

c. Is she sure she will make $40,000? How does she know her figure is accurate?

Sorry, but I don't believe my generation "sucks" anymore than any other generation.

At this point, I'll happily admit to being an advacado-eating, Applebee-killing, coffee-drinking Millennial.

I never said that your gen sucks.

The point that I am making is people should've been taught what they needed to know to make the best possible decisions for their lives including whether to go to college or not and if so what are the best majors. And, how to manage one's money, etc, etc. To claim that millennials are narcissistic and entitled and heap the whole personal responsibility pie upon them to me is unreasonable. Millennials came from somewhere. They didn't exist in a vaccum.

I'm an Xiennal or part of the Oregon Trail generation and the Hope scholarship existed in my state. I'm glad for that but when I went to college I wasn't told what I needed to do to be successful in the IT field especially when every job requires multi skills requiring years of experiencing. I didn't realize until it was to late so many issues and neither me or my boomer parents could predict the Tech bubble busting. Before I went to college I didn't know about things like internships and even when I was in college I only still had a partial understanding of what an internship was and that we were expected to do them outside of our classes. And, we were expected to get certs as well that costed 100s to 1000s of dollars.

And, this is just skimming the surface. But, conservatives would say I should've asked. But, how could I ask if I didn't know what I didn't know and what I thought I knew and what everyone told me was the full scope.

At least I have no student loan debt. Thank God I bit the bullet on that.

But, going in with what I know today if I got a do over I would probably not go into IT since it seems to be an overly saturated field anyway. I probably would've chosen a different major or may have stayed as a courtesy clerk at Kroger and would've seen if I could claim SSDI earlier. I definetly would not go to a blue collar or trade school b/c it requires one to work with one's hand and I have motor coordination problems.

You : "The millienial generation may suck but is it really their fault?"

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26 Nov 2019, 7:37 pm

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cubedemon6073 wrote:

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cubedemon6073 wrote:

Do you have a link to what you watch?

https://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRamseyShow/videos

This boomer will set your straight about your questions.

Sorry, but I don't believe my generation "sucks" anymore than any other generation.

At this point, I'll happily admit to being an advacado-eating, Applebee-killing, coffee-drinking Millennial.

You : "The millienial generation may suck but is it really their fault?"

That's exactly my point.

And, I don't think it is the boomers fault either. When certain individual boomers raised their children they were under a set of assumptions themselves and these assumptions did seem reasonable at the time.

So, I do think the millineal generation is being unfair as well to the boomers.

I think the whole entire system and the mechanism itself is to blame if we're going to assign blame.

In other words what has happened is the car has a flat tire and the train has ran off the tracks.

One group can't take all the work to fix it. There are various aspects to it which can only be fixed by certain groups. Parents need to get off the idea that your child can do anything they set their mind to. Instead they need to do a SWOT analysis and cost benefit analysis. Dave Ramsey, the guy LoveNotHate has introduced, has gotten the ball rolling already.

Before a student is loaned a college loan they need to be made to come up with a comprehensive proposal on how they plan to pay it back.

Students need to quit treating college as party central.

Get rid of the social justice warrior BS as well. Be prepared to read material that is controversial to you.

Schools, get the f**k out of the career counseling business and the self-esteem business. You suck at it. Stick to what you're best at and that is specific academics. Have parents, guardians handle that s**t.

Parents, sit down with your child and make a plan for the summer vacations your children get. Don't let them linger. Have them try various potential careers out and do some internships and job shadowing. And, if you can start a family business.

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27 Nov 2019, 7:21 pm

This is what I also think parents ought to do that they failed to do with me.

My parents let their love for me cloud their judgement and caused them to have blind spots when it came to my being gainfully employed according to social security's definition and being able to provide myself a living.

My parents focused heavily on my strengths but to neglected to look at my weaknesses and how others would react to my strengths and weaknesses? As in, what are the opportunities and threats out there. And, especially the threats as in who makes the rules, sets the criteria, guards the doors and has all the keys? What will be their criteria for hiring someone? Technical? Social as in social intelligence? And, if I was a potential candidate instead of your son and you dad who used to work in HR starting out in government would you hire me yourself? Would you even give me the time of day? Step out of the father and mother role and step into the hiring/selecting official role. Even you dad say you want employees with energy? Would I have that energy you require? Looking at my body language, my monologues, self-stims, lack of eye contact, my monotone voice and my having to ask 50 trillion questions would you hire me yourself. Forget you're my father and forget you're my mother. Would you choose to hire me as a selecting official for the government or a private employer? And, you know how I have difficulty getting started on things and difficulty managing workload? How would this go with an employer even if I was hired?

If you would not, then what makes you think others would as well? What makes you believe I am employable no matter how intelligent I am and no matter what degree I get?

The truth of the matter is that it doesn't matter what I think of myself. If I believe in myself and others including selecting officials and employers think I'm a ret*d what good is believing in myself? How does that make logical sense to you when others can and do decide other people's fate?

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27 Nov 2019, 7:26 pm

Don't be so hard on your parents. They tried their best. I wish they would have done better.

It's a natural thing to play into peoples' strengths.

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27 Nov 2019, 7:48 pm

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Don't be so hard on your parents. They tried their best. I wish they would have done better.

It's a natural thing to play into peoples' strengths.

I know they did their best under the prevailing circumstances. But, this is more of a warning to future parents so they don't make the same mistakes. To, take a comprehensive view of both their child (strengths, weaknesses) and the world (opportunities, threats).

I agree it is natural to play into people's strengths and yes, I'm intelligent and I even created a Tic Tac Toe AI player but in the end but who in the end decides for their respective organizations? In fact, who are the ones who define what strengths and weaknesses are?

Does my belief in my own strengths and your belief in me really matter? In the end, no b/c others decide who they will employ or not?

I going to quote Ben Shapiro. "Facts don't care about your feelings."

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27 Nov 2019, 7:54 pm

I still feel like the Civil Service might be a viable option for you.

How would you feel about tutoring? You have a degree. You could be an online tutor. Some of them get $20 an hour or more. I should have suggested this to you earlier.

You can stay on Benefits. You can do limited tutoring and earn extra money, but not enough to threaten your benefits.

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27 Nov 2019, 8:25 pm

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I still feel like the Civil Service might be a viable option for you.

You could be right. But, what makes you think the civil service might be a viable option for me? I'm just curious as to what are your premises that lead to your conclusion.

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How would you feel about tutoring? You have a degree. You could be an online tutor. Some of them get $20 an hour or more. I should have suggested this to you earlier.

Maybe! Here are some of the questions I'd have to ask myself.

a. Could I stick with it? Could I do it even if I feel as though it's like wading through mud to get started? Especially, when seeing my mother's and uncle's dead bodies realizing that it is all pointless and that life is pointless. No matter how successful we are, no matter if we're millionaires or homeless we all end up 6 feet under.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5NSSIHY9f0

b. Could I create a lesson plan and/or curriculum. Would I be able to have the theory of mind to adjust myself for the student's strengths and weaknesses?

c. Would I have enough of an executive functioning to even prepare for the lessons and be able to do them in the allotted time? Would I be able to determine how much content is enough?

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27 Nov 2019, 8:27 pm

I used to tutor. I did all right. I didn't really "prepare" ahead of time.

I sort of winged it.

You can do that----especially with kids in elementary school.

Usually, if you establish a rapport with the kid, the kid will listen to you.

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27 Nov 2019, 9:03 pm

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cool

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27 Nov 2019, 9:23 pm

There is one more thing I am trying. I haven't 100% folded yet.

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