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04 Feb 2022, 11:02 pm

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To answer your whole question, it's really simple: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Those nationalities felt safer amongst Nazi-affiliated groups than they did amongst Antifa and its ilk. .


Yeah but why join Nazis in the first place? and why would jews be the enemies of Italians. Did you know Mussolini and Italian fascists did try (at least initially) to protect Italian jews.



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04 Feb 2022, 11:07 pm

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Yeah but why join Nazis in the first place? and why would jews be the enemies of Italians. Did you know Mussolini and Italian fascists did try (at least initially) to protect Italian jews.
Again, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And the "enemies" I was referring to were communists, not Jews. I'm sure the Jews gravitated to the communists, given the circumstances back then. Even though the Soviet Union discriminated against Jews to a certain extent, it did protect their right to live, both on paper and in practice. In fact, the Soviet Army liberated Anne Frank's father from a Nazi concentration camp, which helped get her diary published.

So, just like I ran into the arms of QAnon to escape the Democrat lockdowns, the nationalities you described felt safer aligning themselves with the Nazis than with Antifa. That's really scary, if you think about it. Heck, I myself felt more welcomed by QAnon that I did by my Covid-worshipping former liberal friends. So, same concept.


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04 Feb 2022, 11:21 pm

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Yeah but why join Nazis in the first place? and why would jews be the enemies of Italians. Did you know Mussolini and Italian fascists did try (at least initially) to protect Italian jews.
Again, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And the "enemies" I was referring to were communists, not Jews. I'm sure the Jews gravitated to the communists, given the circumstances back then. Even though the Soviet Union discriminated against Jews to a certain extent, it did protect their right to live, both on paper and in practice. In fact, the Soviet Army liberated Anne Frank's father from a Nazi concentration camp, which helped get her diary published.


Being a Nazi in 2022 is a package deal which includes praising "mein fuhrer" for gassing jews. Being anti-communist doesn't mean you need to join the Nazis or be their friends.



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04 Feb 2022, 11:30 pm

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Burt Colucci, 45. Colucci is also the leader of the National Socialist Movement, the Kissimmee-based group behind the rally, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

Why do so many italians, Greeks and hispanics join and lead such groups? They aren't exactly nordic aryans :lol:
Self-esteem issues I suspect.


I think Nazis, oddly enough, have had to become more inclusive as Italians and Greeks are clearly Indo-European peoples (or Aryans, though the terminology is in error) as much as Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic peoples are. I'm not certain how Latinos are welcomed into the fold, though I guess it's just a matter of hating the right people. Well, we can all laugh at the Nazis for becoming more liberal! :lol:


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04 Feb 2022, 11:33 pm

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Burt Colucci, 45. Colucci is also the leader of the National Socialist Movement, the Kissimmee-based group behind the rally, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

Why do so many italians, Greeks and hispanics join and lead such groups? They aren't exactly nordic aryans :lol:
Self-esteem issues I suspect.


I think Nazis, oddly enough, have had to become more inclusive as Italians and Greeks are clearly Indo-European peoples (or Aryans, though the terminology is in error) as much as Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic peoples are. I'm not certain how Latinos are welcomed into the fold, though I guess it's just a matter of hating the right people. Well, we can all laugh at the Nazis for becoming more liberal! :lol:


OMG! yes Kriachie, I never thought about it. The Neo-Nazis are nowadays multi-cultural and multi-racial. They are woke :lol:

On a serious note, a lot of the Russian neo-Nazis are equally stupid given the Nazis likely slaughtered their grandparents



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04 Feb 2022, 11:38 pm

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Burt Colucci, 45. Colucci is also the leader of the National Socialist Movement, the Kissimmee-based group behind the rally, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

Why do so many italians, Greeks and hispanics join and lead such groups? They aren't exactly nordic aryans :lol:
Self-esteem issues I suspect.


I think Nazis, oddly enough, have had to become more inclusive as Italians and Greeks are clearly Indo-European peoples (or Aryans, though the terminology is in error) as much as Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic peoples are. I'm not certain how Latinos are welcomed into the fold, though I guess it's just a matter of hating the right people. Well, we can all laugh at the Nazis for becoming more liberal! :lol:


OMG! yes Kriachie, I never thought about it. The Neo-Nazis are nowadays multi-cultural and multi-racial. They are woke :lol:

On a serious note, a lot of the Russian neo-Nazis are equally stupid given the Nazis likely slaughtered their grandparents


Yes, that is truly insane. But not nearly as insane as Israeli Nazis (yes, there is such a thing!).


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04 Feb 2022, 11:41 pm

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Burt Colucci, 45. Colucci is also the leader of the National Socialist Movement, the Kissimmee-based group behind the rally, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

Why do so many italians, Greeks and hispanics join and lead such groups? They aren't exactly nordic aryans :lol:
Self-esteem issues I suspect.


I think Nazis, oddly enough, have had to become more inclusive as Italians and Greeks are clearly Indo-European peoples (or Aryans, though the terminology is in error) as much as Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic peoples are. I'm not certain how Latinos are welcomed into the fold, though I guess it's just a matter of hating the right people. Well, we can all laugh at the Nazis for becoming more liberal! :lol:


OMG! yes Kriachie, I never thought about it. The Neo-Nazis are nowadays multi-cultural and multi-racial. They are woke :lol:

On a serious note, a lot of the Russian neo-Nazis are equally stupid given the Nazis likely slaughtered their grandparents


Yes, that is truly insane. But not nearly as insane as Israeli Nazis (yes, there is such a thing!).


Yes that doesn't surprise me. There are far-right jewish groups want to remove Palestinians from the state of Israel (ostensibly for claims of national security). These same groups have also campaigned against the Falasha jews from Ethiopia as being "fake" and were responsible for some nasty policies including sterilising women from that community without their permission.