Nick Sandmann Loses Defamation Lawsuits Against CBS, others
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Grasping at straws has been their stock-in-trade since Donald J. Trump threw his hat in for Republican nominee.
Yes, in this case its all about the MAGA hat and the purpose of them being on that trip in the first place. It's why many of us, including me, bought and wore a MAGA hat; as a show of solidarity in the wake that ugly left wing attack and smear campaign. Had it not been for that, I doubt it would have ever entered my mind to buy and wear a MAGA hat even though I did vote for Trump both times and would do so again.
Yes, in this case its all about the MAGA hat and the purpose of them being on that trip in the first place. It's why many of us, including me, bought and wore a MAGA hat; as a show of solidarity in the wake that ugly left wing attack and smear campaign. Had it not been for that, I doubt it would have ever entered my mind to buy and wear a MAGA hat even though I did vote for Trump both times and would do so again.
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about the hat. That changes everything.
No hat.
No march to defend the rights of the unborn.
This non-incident would have never seen the light of day.
Change my mind.
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cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Yes of course. The lot of them should be tried by a war crimes tribunal for crimes against humanity and subsequently hung and then shot several times each just to be sure.

On the contrary, I think the students should enrol in cultural intelligence studies (they seem to lack intelligence so any bit might help) to help them learn to be culturally sensitive.
School courses should have an actual practical purpose.
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If anyone needs punishment it's their teachers and by association their sh***y school
Your campaign against private education, a bastion against leftist indoctrination, hasn't gone unnoticed.
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Matrix Glitch wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If someone walks up to me beating a drum ,and it was annoying( or frightening) I would walk away and not stand there smirking.Common sense.
Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?

Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?
What would you have done in that situation? I would have stood there feeling awkward.
The same thing I did when an annoying drunk man got up in my face blabbing at a party.Turn my back and walk away quietly.
Even Sandmann says he should have done exactly that.
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Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If someone walks up to me beating a drum ,and it was annoying( or frightening) I would walk away and not stand there smirking.Common sense.
Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?

Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Philips was 63, not that far into the elderly camp. His conduct could easily be considered hostile, given the tensions at the place and time. :
Are you taking drugs? he was chanting and playing a drum, in what universe is that hostile? the kids were the ones who were being hostile.
Sandmann and his mob of rowdys have probably never seen an actual native American before in their all-white school and the only black people they've seen is on TV or the black kids they call racist names on opposition basketball teams,
Their behaviour is identical to the all-white private school boys I went to in the 1970s and early 1980s. They see somebody different in public they become an unruly racist mob. It's only because fellow spoilt child brat and orange haired troll gave his his support to them using his status as POTUS that this who whole thing had oxygen.
Yes of course. The lot of them should be tried by a war crimes tribunal for crimes against humanity and subsequently hung and then shot several times each just to be sure.
Who said that? You’re projecting what YOU want to do with people you disagree with.
I think his parents should have sent him to bed without supper.
Big difference.
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Matrix Glitch wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If someone walks up to me beating a drum ,and it was annoying( or frightening) I would walk away and not stand there smirking.Common sense.
Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?

Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?
What would you have done in that situation? I would have stood there feeling awkward.
I would have stood there frozen with the same s**t eating grin Sandmann had. I have done that in awkward situations and been misinterpreted as hostile plenty of times.
If Sandmann wanted to leave where would he go? He could not back off, his classmates were behind him and besides him
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Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Yes of course. The lot of them should be tried by a war crimes tribunal for crimes against humanity and subsequently hung and then shot several times each just to be sure.

On the contrary, I think the students should enrol in cultural intelligence studies (they seem to lack intelligence so any bit might help) to help them learn to be culturally sensitive.
School courses should have an actual practical purpose.
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If anyone needs punishment it's their teachers and by association their sh***y school
Your campaign against private education, a bastion against leftist indoctrination, hasn't gone unnoticed.
That’s not true, some private schools are very liberal.Not the parochial ones , but others make sure the kids get a good dose of the Arts.
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Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
I invite anyone to go to a crowded place, and start beating a drum right in front of someone's face to see what happens. And please make sure someone is filming and it goes on youtube.
You know very well that everybody is going to ignore the person and walk off exactly as Misslizard said. Stop pretending it's such a mystery.
Oh, but if they'd walked away and ignored him wouldn't that be a show of disrespect to an elder? Wouldn't that be marginalizing him and othering him? How can you be so insensitive?
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Only drunken racists or rowdy school boys would surround the person and make fun of them.
Mmmhmm
If he walked away that would be interpreted as his vile racism, coming to the fore. He is teenager scared of an old man only because the old man was not white.
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If someone walks up to me beating a drum ,and it was annoying( or frightening) I would walk away and not stand there smirking.Common sense.
Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?

Especially if I thought there was any hostility. So the boy is either rude or stupid, maybe both.
Why would I use a bullwhip on any kid?
Never said anything about it.
Partisanship? Never once have I said anything about his hat or that he instigated anything.I don’t care what kind of hat he was wearing.
If he was a democrat ,I’d say the same thing about him.
The old man was beating a drum in public, not waving a big stick.It was a public demonstration ,so he could walk up to anyone he liked beating his drum.He didn’t accost the boy walking down the street minding his own business.You can look at the expressions on the faces of the other boys in the picture and get an idea of what kind of little s**ts they are.
Probably go home and beat up the Downs kid next door.
What horrible judgement of his character did I make?That he was rude?Oh how awful of me.Will he sue me next?
What would you have done in that situation? I would have stood there feeling awkward.
I would have stood there frozen with the same s**t eating grin Sandmann had. I have done that in awkward situations and been misinterpreted as hostile plenty of times.
If Sandmann wanted to leave where would he go? He could not back off, his classmates were behind him and besides him
Merge in the crowd.I also smile when I’m nervous, I get that.But I don’t think l he is on the spectrum.
The kids in the background didn’t look nervous, looked like they were enjoying the show.
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
I invite anyone to go to a crowded place, and start beating a drum right in front of someone's face to see what happens. And please make sure someone is filming and it goes on youtube.
You know very well that everybody is going to ignore the person and walk off exactly as Misslizard said. Stop pretending it's such a mystery.
Oh, but if they'd walked away and ignored him wouldn't that be a show of disrespect to an elder? Wouldn't that be marginalizing him and othering him? How can you be so insensitive?
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Only drunken racists or rowdy school boys would surround the person and make fun of them.
Mmmhmm
If he walked away that would be interpreted as his vile racism, coming to the fore. He is teenager scared of an old man only because the old man was not white.
I don’t think it would have been seen that way, normal behavior ,like when people avoid confrontation ,doesn’t make the news.
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cyberdad wrote:
Think why the judge awarded little Sandmann no money (not even 1 penny). Any reasonable person would take on face value the kid and his friends were acting like out of control spoilt brats.
I do not have to think about why the judge tossed the case, we have the ruling. It had nothing to do with “everybody just knowing”.
“U.S. District Judge William Bertelsman wrote that the media outlets, in reporting on the incident, “were covering a matter of great public interest, and they reported Phillips’s first-person view of what he experienced. This would put the reader on notice that Phillips was simply giving his perspective on the incident.”
Bertelsman wrote that “the Court concludes that Phillips’s statements that Sandmann ‘blocked’ him and ‘wouldn’t allow [him] to retreat’ are objectively unverifiable and thus unactionable opinions.”
“Instead, a reasonable reader would understand that Phillips was simply conveying his view of the situation,” the judge wrote. “And because the reader knew from the articles that this encounter occurred at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, he or she would know that the confrontation occurred in an expansive area such that it would be difficult to know what might constitute ‘blocking’ another person in that setting.”
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Get over it. He is spoiled brat. The courts agree.
But all would be forgiven if only he would... turn on his magic beam!
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Misslizard wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
I invite anyone to go to a crowded place, and start beating a drum right in front of someone's face to see what happens. And please make sure someone is filming and it goes on youtube.
You know very well that everybody is going to ignore the person and walk off exactly as Misslizard said. Stop pretending it's such a mystery.
Oh, but if they'd walked away and ignored him wouldn't that be a show of disrespect to an elder? Wouldn't that be marginalizing him and othering him? How can you be so insensitive?
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Only drunken racists or rowdy school boys would surround the person and make fun of them.
Mmmhmm
If he walked away that would be interpreted as his vile racism, coming to the fore. He is teenager scared of an old man only because the old man was not white.
I don’t think it would have been seen that way, normal behavior ,like when people avoid confrontation ,doesn’t make the news.
Maybe the mainstream news organizations might have avoided it, and that would not have not mattered much. It still would have been captured on video and gone viral and Sandmann would have gotten it from both sides. The wokes would have interpreted it a racist because that is what they do. Tucker Carlson and the like would have used the footage as an example of how white males have been emasculated by the wokes.
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
I would have stood there frozen with the same s**t eating grin Sandmann had. I have done that in awkward situations and been misinterpreted as hostile plenty of times.
If Sandmann wanted to leave where would he go? He could not back off, his classmates were behind him and besides him
If Sandmann wanted to leave where would he go? He could not back off, his classmates were behind him and besides him
Really AS? you would have stood there frozen in fear because of an old man? please be real and stop feeding this nonsense
to start of with, would you have worn a MAGA hat and joined in a school endorsed pro-Trump anti-abortion rally?
Hypothetically anyone with any sense if they forced by the school to attend the aforementioned rally would keep far away from this disgusting mob and waited for the bus with the teacher. Not rocket science.

