Stupid People must DIE (preferably of Measles.)

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Fair enough, I spose... I still can't understand the need for the vaccine in the first place.

As I said, it's use makes the most sense among those (like myself) who, for whatever reason, did not contract chickenpox in early childhood. I don't see much reason for making it part of the standard immunization schedule, but it has its place.

*Odin flies into an angry rage...*

I get that feeling sometimes too... I HAD just explained in detail what the need was about three separate times, but w/e.

I can understand that, I just don't see what the need for it as a mandatory childhood vaccine is. Should've made that clearer.

London, UK.. panic about MMR/Autism link. Number of childhood vaccinations down.. number of cases of various diseases (measles etc) in London goes up....

What is there in that which suggests a conspiracy by major pharm companies/ the government?

I'm not suggesting any conspiracy there, though the numbers of measles cases were going down prior to mass immunisation and there are plenty of outbreaks in vaccinated populations too (they just don't make such good headlines, do they?).

Have you read up on some of the big manufacturers history and their recent antics?

Like, the fact that Bayer, third biggest pharma company in the world, was once part of IG Farben, the company that produced Zyklon B, the gas used in nazi gas chambers like at Auschwitz? But when IG Farben were tried were severe war crimes after the second world war for its role in the gas chambers, it was split into its original companies, of which Bayer is one of just three remaining and by far the biggest and most powerful? Also during the Nazi era they not only sponsered nazi Dr Josef Mengele, but they re-appointed Fritz ter Meer as head of their supervisory board AFTER he'd been jailed for nazi war crimes at the Nuremberg trials? Not only that, during the 70s they supplied products almost certainly deliberately contaminated with HIV, they've poisoned children in South America with their products, they discovered heroin, mustard gas and tabun, and are one of the leading manufacturers of pesticides and GE food in the world.

Or how about Merck of the we- put- our- scientists- into- universities- and- have- them- pose- as- independent- scientists- so- our- dodgy- and- false- studies- look- more- believeable fame? Just one example of the frauds they commit. Next up we've got the fraud they also committed by covering up and tampering with data on the safety of Vioxx, and put it on the market only to let it kill over 50,000 Americans alone, despite knowing it induced heart attacks from the very beginning. Then the dozens of individuals taking them to court over various other frauds including consumer fraud and defrauding insurance companies and the govt. They've also been dumping vaccine waste into water treatment works near their Virginia plant, which has led to interference in the treatment and mass kill-offs of fish in nearby waterways.



Just to name two of the biggest companies whose products you'll be injecting yourselves with and whose pills you'll be popping... Sound like anyone you'd trust with your body and your health??



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You definitely have an axe to grind with someone.

Yup, and I think I've made it pretty clear who... *cough* pharmawhodeliberatelyliecheatandpoisonus *cough*

Seriously, does that kind of stuff not at the very least alarm you?

I'm just so sick of seeing people sick and continuing to just poison themselves with the very things making them ill in the first place. I don't want to see another person get cancer or die a slow and horrible death or slave through life ill all the time. It's so horrible and it makes me sick to the stomach what these people are getting away with.

I just can't believe the apathy.

Please edit this, it makes the page stretch waaay out horizontally.

Sorry, didn't do it on my one. That better?

thanks

The fact that IG Farben manufactured something which was used in such an evil fashion does not automatically invalidate everything they, or their spin-offs do. The experiments carried out by Mengele and his cohorts are not neccessarily invalidated by the evilness of the scientists involved. NASA and "space program" spring to mind as examples of bastardry-in-science put to good use...

Dear old Fritz might have been a war-criminal and worthy only of a long painful death.. but does that make his science "bad" or "wrong"? And mustard gas was meant to be a war-winner at the time,....

The fact that certain companies are profiteering f*****s and unscrupulous s**ts does not neccessarily mean that vaccination itself is wrong or that the science involved is incorrect.

Consider it in the same arena as headline grabbing.. By phrasing things in a certain way, they create interest and thus boost sales. Same as the titles of threads in these forums. Look at how I phrased this title.. its apocryphal, or at best wildly inaccurate, yet roughly reflects the vague sentiment of the original article, and drew attention thusly. At no point have the government ever said stupid people must die... at least not in public....

False.

Wasn't the government I was thinking of. Nor did I say such thinking was wrong, per se. Mr Holmes makes a fair point though.

I could find other quotes of government officials espousing similar views, but that was teh easiest to come by. No he does not make a fair point. Research the history of Buck v Bell before you say things like that. I'm not into eugenics.