Muslims march over cartoons of the Prophet
The student newspaper I was a part of once made a joke about Mohammed doing something sexual that really angered the Muslim Students Association so much, there were threats of violence even after the editor wrote a public apology. Fortunately for the paper, the campus police had an office next door so somebody would have to be either very stupid or extremely brainwashed to carry out such a threat.
That incident showed me that Muslims are extremely sensitive about their religious leader, so their protests about these cartoons don't surprise me at all. I'm just saying that I've experienced this ugly side of religion personally.
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This newspaper is linked to the Norwegian right-wing Progress Party, wich it praises in several of it's articles. The leader of this party is known for his post-9/11 controversial speeches against Islam and suspicion of foreigners.
Read more:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 103526.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 097512.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 925917.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 913982.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 845235.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 836294.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 787935.ece
Some anti-Islam groups, people and politicians see the hijacking of a plane in Norway by a mentally ill Algerian man who was trying to found his own Muslim congregation as the first act of Islamic terrorism in Norway, wich helped to make racisim against Muslims even worse in Norway:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 881366.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local ... 880354.ece
I can understand why Muslims are offended about cartoons of Mohammed. However, there are certain things that must be put into perspective:
1. The question that must be asked is whether freedom of speech and freedom of the press includes the freedom to offend others. In U.S. constitutional law, freedom of speech and freedom of the press does not include libel, slander, and obscenity. It has been up to the lawyers and the courts to hash out the meanings of these concepts. In Canadian and much European jurisprudence, freedom of speech and freedom of the press does not include "hateful" or offensive speech--this goes further than in the United States (I don't know about common law Britain, but is the case in most of civil law continental Europe). Of course, freedom of speech and freedom of the press is constitutionally protected in both the United States, Canada, and Europe (even in Britain without a written constitution).
2. While Muslims have a right to be offended at cartoons of Mohammed, they have no right to blackmail European governments simply because certain newspaper editors exercised their freedom of the press and freedom of the press. Why should European governments have to apologize to certain Arab countries because of cartoons published by their own free press.
3. Many Western media and entertainment moguls publish materials that are offensive to Jews and Christians. In fact, it has become more acceptable for Western media and entertainment moguls to offend Christians than Muslims. While the U.S. Public Broadcasting Company has produced programs that are highly critical of Christians and Christianity, they have put out some programs that amount almost as proselytism for Islam. At U.S. universities, Christianity is trashed much more than Islam. Are Christians rioting in the streets over this treatment--no.
4. There is obviously a double standard when those same Muslims who cry foul over cartoons of Mohammed would not only tolerate, but support anti-Semitic cartoons in Arab and Iranian papers. Many would find common cause with Holocaust deniers. Those Muslim countries in which anti-Semitic cartoons are published owe Israel a huge apology for such cartoons.
It is time to end the double standards and the wishy-washy political correctness. The reason why anti-Muslim cartoon would appear in Europe is the burgeoning Muslim population. The European countries have not figured out how to deal with this population. Some elements have resorted to violence--subway (tube) bombings in London, commuter train bombings in Madrid, political assassinations in the Netherlands, and riots and car burnings in France. It is a reaction against "Eurabia"--a clear and present danger.
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It's time to make a habit of ridiculing the Prophet. I'm getting sick of this thing just sort of growing little by little like a cancer. Whatever you might say about respecting other religions and such, they're on the wrong side of this schism that developed in a few tribes that managed to escape some natural disasters a few thousand years ago. They've been frozen for thousands of years with an obsession about the way God mistreated all of us, not quite realizing that natural phemonema are not personal, but fully realizing how profitable it is to practice social control.
I don't know why I decided to post this particular story back in November. There are always several others to choose from. You can find nutty stories from the world of Islam every day of the week.
I had no idea this incident would develop into such a major world event.
But, really, why should anything Muslims do surprise anyone anymore?
The Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus and the Danish embassy in Beirut have been torched in the past few days.
Isn't this an act of war? Isn't it about time we invaded Syria?
What these barbaric morons don't seem to understand is that - unlike in their own medieval s**thole countries - in the West, governments do not control the media.
We had a Muslim protest in London. Here are some pictures
These scumbags actually received police protection so they could march through the street inciting mass murder.
One dickhead carried a banner with the words "Freedom of expression can go to hell". He apprently didn't see the irony. It's because we live in a free country that dirtbags like him and his friends don't receive a public lashing, which is what they deserve.
The Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw basically said it was the West's fault. As did the Arabs' favourite Western journalist, Robert Fisk.
But the point of these cartoons was not to cause gratuitous offence. They were published to accompany an article about the dangers of self-censorship, after several cartoonists had refused to illustrate a children's book about Islam for fear of their lives.
It's as if these Muslims have some huge inferiority complex, and they see Western affluence as a deliberate affront to Islam, when in reality no one in the West would give a toss about the Islamic world if they didn't have oil and terrorists.
So when the West does actually acknowledge Islam without fawning all over it, they go ballistic.



I think think that European countries are being to kind to them and that their kindness is being taken for weakness. The signs those terrorists were holding in London would not fly in the US. They either would have been shot by counterdemnstrators or overrun and beaten by a large mob- and I would have supported it since they are liable to commit terrorist acts.
The Arabs are barbarians. I don't expect democracy to take hold there, but we have to give it a try just to be fair. In the end, all we can probably do is just sack the region and deprive the locals of the financial and logistical means to carry out a terrorist attack in the western world.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/4208
I think that one of the reasons why the cartoons were printed in this Christian fundamentalist paper here in Norway was because of Norwegian post-ww2 xenophobic nationalism mixed with Christian fundamentalist nationalism.
This newspaper only sells in 5000 copies a day and it has links to Christian fundamentalist groups that are basically a joke and extreme right wing politicians.
This newspaper only sells in 5000 copies a day and it has links to Christian fundamentalist groups that are basically a joke and extreme right wing politicians.
But the cartoons were originally printed in Jyllands-Posten in Denmark, which has a daily readership of over 600,000 people, which is over 10% of the Danish population.
I just knew someone on here would come down on the side of the Muslims in no time. Do you think these insane Muslim protests are justified? And what's with telling us about a single incident where a Muslim was stabbed by a lone attacker? Are you really trying to convince yourself that European racism is to blame in all this? Most of Europe are not Nazis, no matter how much liberals whine about the dangers of an anti-Muslim backlash every time Muslims do something crazy.
It seems to me that the Muslim community could use a strong backlash as an incentive for them to keep their own members in line.
February 04, 2006
The cartoon jihad (2)
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Since the cartoons were actually published last autumn and protests at the time were confined to demonstrations in Denmark, why have they only now erupted across the world?
One possible if dismaying answer, which should receive more attention, is suggested by David Conway on the Civitas website yesterday:
Suddenly, the pieces fall into shape. The rumpus suddenly escalated, complete with fabricated offensive cartoons, to so enflame Muslim opinion that Denmark could be intimidated directly through a threatened Muslim boycott of its goods, or indirectly by the EU fearful of a wider boycott, into voting in favour of Iran.
I find this entirely plausible. In fact, I am now convinced.
After all, didn't the Muslims time their attack on Spain to coincide with the Spanish elections, thus helping to change the Spanish government and remove Spanish troops from Iraq?
A lot of what these fruitcakes do is very calculated.
It's worth noting that the idea that pictures of Muhammad are forbidden in Islam is not actually true. Some Muslims will find anything to protest about. The hijab is not a requirement for Muslim women, but French Muslims still managed to protest about a school's refusal to let a girl wear one.
This newspaper only sells in 5000 copies a day and it has links to Christian fundamentalist groups that are basically a joke and extreme right wing politicians.
But the cartoons were originally printed in Jyllands-Posten in Denmark, which has a daily readership of over 600,000 people, which is over 10% of the Danish population.
I just knew someone on here would come down on the side of the Muslims in no time. Do you think these insane Muslim protests are justified? And what's with telling us about a single incident where a Muslim was stabbed by a lone attacker? Are you really trying to convince yourself that European racism is to blame in all this? Most of Europe are not Nazis, no matter how much liberals whine about the dangers of an anti-Muslim backlash every time Muslims do something crazy.
Sadly, there are extremists and idiots on both sides, but I'm just trying to show the background for anti-islamic groups in Norway.
We are risking terrorist attacks from both islamists and neo-nazis here.
I think the Muslims need to grow up. They attack freedom of speech when it is not in their favor. They use freedom of speech to show their hatred of this World. In certain countries they have a right of freedom speech. When will they show respect for the World that is not Muslim so the World can show respect towards them in the end. When they show contempt and no respect toward the World the World comes back and bites them then. This World will never have Peace as long We all can not respect each other, as long We show comtempt for each other We all will live in this World as is.
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I have several friends in Norway, and I am really concerned for their safety. My one friend mentioned the neo-nazi protests too. I only hope it ends quckly.
Lonermutant said:
"There was a Muslim man who was stabbed in the neck as an act of revenge by a Norwegian teenager last night. He survived, but there has also been threats by neo-nazi/nationalists who are willing to burn the Koran or set fire or blow up Mosques."
Where in Norway did this happen?
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Lonermutant said:
"There was a Muslim man who was stabbed in the neck as an act of revenge by a Norwegian teenager last night. He survived, but there has also been threats by neo-nazi/nationalists who are willing to burn the Koran or set fire or blow up Mosques."
Where in Norway did this happen?
The stabbing happened in Skien.

