Bratz dolls to be banned after holidays
hale_bopp wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Overall there is one thing to be learned... Your thoughts are not your own, especially not when you belong to a corporate giant.
STOP THINKING.. they own you until you leave.
STOP THINKING.. they own you until you leave.
Sums it up.
I think it was a bit lame to be honest. Not that I liked the dolls or anything.
I can buy some and sell them on ebay as retro in 10 years. Woo.
Buy them from Woolworths a thalf price and store them.
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Buy them from Woolworths a thalf price and store them.
woolworths aren't going fifty percent on everything, the majority's only ten percent
if the law's passed they may be destroyed, or just thrown out. i'm sure if you throw a shop a few compliments they'll let you know where they're leving them so you can grab a handfull or two.
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violet_yoshi wrote:
Hopefully parents don't let their kids listen to The Pussycat Dolls.
my parents didn't want me to watch eighteen certificate movies when i was six yet that didn't stop me waiting up all night or picking videos off the shelf, i also freely watched porn here and there without them knowing too.
i knew a guy a few years older than me who let me listen to his eminem album, even though i was just a kid at the time i managed it meaning kids even younger can do it these days too.
there's no warning when it comes to advertisements or music videos and so any child can view it.
Well there also are children who do take pride in heading what their parents say, and in being a good child.
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violet_yoshi wrote:
Well there also are children who do take pride in heading what their parents say, and in being a good child.
the majority of kids these days are more interested in sex, drugs, and mayhem.
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familiar_stranger wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Buy them from Woolworths a thalf price and store them.
woolworths aren't going fifty percent on everything, the majority's only ten percent
if the law's passed they may be destroyed, or just thrown out. i'm sure if you throw a shop a few compliments they'll let you know where they're leving them so you can grab a handfull or two.[/quote
Wait until the final days.. THEN THE VULTURES WILL SWOOP!! !!
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Michael_Stuart wrote:
See? good things can come out of greed after all.
Now perhaps if we can put a thorough quality check on all music before it is allowed to air, the next generation won't be as wasted as this one.
Now perhaps if we can put a thorough quality check on all music before it is allowed to air, the next generation won't be as wasted as this one.
Define "quality"....
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Michael_Stuart wrote:
Now perhaps if we can put a thorough quality check on all music before it is allowed to air, the next generation won't be as wasted as this one.
I don't think music is much to blame for the bad youth of today. It's more like their worthless parents with mental disorders and chemical abuse problems which causes neglect which causes mentally disturbed next generation. It's a dirty vicious cycle.
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Ticker wrote:
Michael_Stuart wrote:
Now perhaps if we can put a thorough quality check on all music before it is allowed to air, the next generation won't be as wasted as this one.
I don't think music is much to blame for the bad youth of today. It's more like their worthless parents with mental disorders and chemical abuse problems which causes neglect which causes mentally disturbed next generation. It's a dirty vicious cycle.
the world would be a better place without the cr*p that's classed as music these days, but the idiots out there who cause mayhem for fun tend to see the wrong types as role models, which leads to the music.
to this day i haven't met a chav who doesn't like rap/d&b who likes rock...
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familiar_stranger wrote:
Ticker wrote:
Michael_Stuart wrote:
Now perhaps if we can put a thorough quality check on all music before it is allowed to air, the next generation won't be as wasted as this one.
I don't think music is much to blame for the bad youth of today. It's more like their worthless parents with mental disorders and chemical abuse problems which causes neglect which causes mentally disturbed next generation. It's a dirty vicious cycle.
the world would be a better place without the cr*p that's classed as music these days, but the idiots out there who cause mayhem for fun tend to see the wrong types as role models, which leads to the music.
to this day i haven't met a chav who doesn't like rap/d&b who likes rock...
There are a***holes who listen to metal as well. I'm sure there were unpleasant tossers when Mozart was the latest thing, hanging about in gangs and causing trouble.. in fact there were.
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Bratz dolls.. sigh. I always hated these ugly little toys. Heres a pretty awesome link In Memory of Bratz I think sums up how much most people really care about these toys
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The rowdy Bratz dolls have been evicted. Barbie has regained control of the dollhouse.
Toy giant Mattel Inc., after a four-year legal dispute with MGA Entertainment Inc., touted its win in the case Wednesday after a federal judge banned MGA from making and selling its pouty-lipped and hugely popular Bratz dolls.
"It's a pretty sweeping victory," Mattel attorney Michael Zeller said. "They have no right to use Bratz for any goods or services at all."
U.S. District Judge Stephen Larson rocked the toy industry with his order that MGA must immediately stop manufacturing Bratz. He allowed MGA to wait until the holiday season ends to remove the toys from store shelves.
The decision was a stunning defeat for MGA, which exploded onto the tween scene in 2001 with the edgy dolls and made hundreds of millions in profits, giving Mattel's more classic doll-diva Barbie a run for her money.
MGA planned to immediately appeal the judge's injunction, Chief Executive Isaac Larian said in a written statement late Wednesday.
Larian said the company also intended to ask that the order be stayed until the appeals process is over, so that "we can maintain the over 1,500 people that MGA employs, and continue to give our consumers a product they desire."
The ruling, issued in federal court in Riverside, followed a jury's finding that Bratz designer Carter Bryant developed the concept for the dolls while working for Mattel.
The same jury later awarded Mattel $10 million for copyright infringement and $90 million for breach of contract after a lengthy trial stemming from Mattel's 2004 lawsuit ended in August.
Mattel has fought to neutralize the Bratz line for years. The dolls -- with their huge lips, pug noses, almond-shaped eyes and coquettish figures -- were an instant hit with young girls. MGA had taken Bryant's original four dolls and spun out a line of more than 40 characters, complete with accessories and related toys such as Bratz Boyz, Bratz Petz and Baby Bratz.
El Segundo-based Mattel has seen sales of Barbie -- once a rite of passage for American girls -- slide since the doe-eyed Bratz dolls first came on the scene. Domestic sales of Barbie were down 15% in 2007.
Both sides had a lot riding on the judge's decision and had worried about the impact of any ruling during the holiday shopping season.
The judge's injunction named all 40 dolls in the Bratz line, including the four originals -- Yasmine, Chloe, Sasha and Jade. Larson also ordered MGA to reimburse its vendors and distributors for the cost of the dolls and all shipping charges for sending them back.
During trial, Mattel attorneys said MGA made nearly $778 million on the Bratz line since it was introduced seven years ago, and company Chief Executive Isaac Larian made $696 million through June -- but MGA insisted the profits were much less.
The post-trial dispute that prompted Wednesday's ruling centered on whether the jury found that only the first generation of four Bratz dolls infringed on Mattel's (MAT, Fortune 500) copyright or whether all the dolls in the line are in violation.
The jury verdict form only asked panelists to find whether there was infringement and assign a dollar reward, but did not ask them to specify which dolls among the dozens MGA made violated the law.
Los Angeles-based MGA, which no longer makes the first-generation dolls, argued that the later toys in the Bratz line don't violate the copyright and it could continue to sell them.
MGA attorney Raoul Kennedy argued that Larson had the discretion to determine which dolls violated Mattel's copyright. Mattel's attorneys disagreed, saying the court does not have the authority to interpret the jury's findings after the fact.
Toy giant Mattel Inc., after a four-year legal dispute with MGA Entertainment Inc., touted its win in the case Wednesday after a federal judge banned MGA from making and selling its pouty-lipped and hugely popular Bratz dolls.
"It's a pretty sweeping victory," Mattel attorney Michael Zeller said. "They have no right to use Bratz for any goods or services at all."
U.S. District Judge Stephen Larson rocked the toy industry with his order that MGA must immediately stop manufacturing Bratz. He allowed MGA to wait until the holiday season ends to remove the toys from store shelves.
The decision was a stunning defeat for MGA, which exploded onto the tween scene in 2001 with the edgy dolls and made hundreds of millions in profits, giving Mattel's more classic doll-diva Barbie a run for her money.
MGA planned to immediately appeal the judge's injunction, Chief Executive Isaac Larian said in a written statement late Wednesday.
Larian said the company also intended to ask that the order be stayed until the appeals process is over, so that "we can maintain the over 1,500 people that MGA employs, and continue to give our consumers a product they desire."
The ruling, issued in federal court in Riverside, followed a jury's finding that Bratz designer Carter Bryant developed the concept for the dolls while working for Mattel.
The same jury later awarded Mattel $10 million for copyright infringement and $90 million for breach of contract after a lengthy trial stemming from Mattel's 2004 lawsuit ended in August.
Mattel has fought to neutralize the Bratz line for years. The dolls -- with their huge lips, pug noses, almond-shaped eyes and coquettish figures -- were an instant hit with young girls. MGA had taken Bryant's original four dolls and spun out a line of more than 40 characters, complete with accessories and related toys such as Bratz Boyz, Bratz Petz and Baby Bratz.
El Segundo-based Mattel has seen sales of Barbie -- once a rite of passage for American girls -- slide since the doe-eyed Bratz dolls first came on the scene. Domestic sales of Barbie were down 15% in 2007.
Both sides had a lot riding on the judge's decision and had worried about the impact of any ruling during the holiday shopping season.
The judge's injunction named all 40 dolls in the Bratz line, including the four originals -- Yasmine, Chloe, Sasha and Jade. Larson also ordered MGA to reimburse its vendors and distributors for the cost of the dolls and all shipping charges for sending them back.
During trial, Mattel attorneys said MGA made nearly $778 million on the Bratz line since it was introduced seven years ago, and company Chief Executive Isaac Larian made $696 million through June -- but MGA insisted the profits were much less.
The post-trial dispute that prompted Wednesday's ruling centered on whether the jury found that only the first generation of four Bratz dolls infringed on Mattel's (MAT, Fortune 500) copyright or whether all the dolls in the line are in violation.
The jury verdict form only asked panelists to find whether there was infringement and assign a dollar reward, but did not ask them to specify which dolls among the dozens MGA made violated the law.
Los Angeles-based MGA, which no longer makes the first-generation dolls, argued that the later toys in the Bratz line don't violate the copyright and it could continue to sell them.
MGA attorney Raoul Kennedy argued that Larson had the discretion to determine which dolls violated Mattel's copyright. Mattel's attorneys disagreed, saying the court does not have the authority to interpret the jury's findings after the fact.
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