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23 Feb 2022, 12:30 am

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But it is far better to have been vaccinated—the more shots the merrier.


The data quoted above does not support that opinion.


Neither does the article I posted above this one.



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23 Feb 2022, 3:02 am

The people who know are the people on the “front lines.”



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23 Feb 2022, 10:27 am

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Attack the argument, not the person/people.

It is an unfortunate collection of deplorables, but as I said, try to comprehend the *message*. ;)



Generally, yes, in a debate: look at the argument, not the author. But when it comes to protests, the intent behind them can corrupt the message, IMHO. The message can become a cover for an agenda that is about something else entirely, and it would be foolish not to look and understand what that agenda is. With the trucker's protest, the intent seemed to be to spread disruption more than to get a message heard. That's just how it's played out to my distant eyes.


Ding ding ding. A bunch of garbage people are taking advantage of mentally ill people with this whole convoy nonsense to gain support for their far right fringe lunatic nonsense.

I told y'all that many pages ago.


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23 Feb 2022, 10:03 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:

Attack the argument, not the person/people.

It is an unfortunate collection of deplorables, but as I said, try to comprehend the *message*. ;)



Generally, yes, in a debate: look at the argument, not the author. But when it comes to protests, the intent behind them can corrupt the message, IMHO. The message can become a cover for an agenda that is about something else entirely, and it would be foolish not to look and understand what that agenda is. With the trucker's protest, the intent seemed to be to spread disruption more than to get a message heard. That's just how it's played out to my distant eyes.


Ding ding ding. A bunch of garbage people are taking advantage of mentally ill people with this whole convoy nonsense to gain support for their far right fringe lunatic nonsense.

I told y'all that many pages ago.


The basis of the protest is freedom of choice.
I can see how *you* would see this as garbage from "a bunch of garbage people". 8)



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23 Feb 2022, 10:19 pm

Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:

Attack the argument, not the person/people.

It is an unfortunate collection of deplorables, but as I said, try to comprehend the *message*. ;)



Generally, yes, in a debate: look at the argument, not the author. But when it comes to protests, the intent behind them can corrupt the message, IMHO. The message can become a cover for an agenda that is about something else entirely, and it would be foolish not to look and understand what that agenda is. With the trucker's protest, the intent seemed to be to spread disruption more than to get a message heard. That's just how it's played out to my distant eyes.


Ding ding ding. A bunch of garbage people are taking advantage of mentally ill people with this whole convoy nonsense to gain support for their far right fringe lunatic nonsense.

I told y'all that many pages ago.


The basis of the protest is freedom of choice.
I can see how *you* would see this as garbage from "a bunch of garbage people". 8)


The basis of their protest is.. not in reality.

They’re honking horns it Ottawa to protest American laws.. mmmkay - must be a special kind of stupid.


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24 Feb 2022, 11:46 am

Uhm.. the laws were engaged on both sides of the border . I believe, and now they are descending upon Washington
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24 Feb 2022, 11:52 am

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Uhm.. the laws were engaged on both sides of the border . I believe, and now they are descending upon Washington
:|


These geniuses are protesting having to be vaccinated to cross the US border. That’s not a Canadian law. It’s an American law. Honking horns in Ottawa isn’t going to do jack s**t about a law set by the Biden administration in the USA.


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24 Feb 2022, 7:44 pm

Trudeau revokes emergency powers after Canada blockades end

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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Wednesday he is removing emergency powers police can use after authorities ended the border blockades by those opposed to COVID-19 restrictions as well as the occupation of downtown Ottawa.

"The situation is no longer an emergency, therefore the federal government will be ending the use of the emergencies act," Trudeau said. "We are confident that existing laws and bylaws are sufficient to keep people safe."


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24 Feb 2022, 10:04 pm

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The basis of the protest is freedom of choice.



But is it, really? No one is forcing them to get the vaccination.

90% of the truckers have already chosen to be vaccinated.

Crossing a border is a privilege, not a right.

And then they go throw a lot of other things up in interviews and demand lists, allowing a lot of different agendas to creep into the equation.


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24 Feb 2022, 10:19 pm

Thank God no one was seriously physically hurt, and it seems to be over.


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24 Feb 2022, 10:54 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
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The basis of the protest is freedom of choice.



But is it, really? No one is forcing them to get the vaccination.

90% of the truckers have already chosen to be vaccinated.

Crossing a border is a privilege, not a right.

And then they go throw a lot of other things up in interviews and demand lists, allowing a lot of different agendas to creep into the equation.


Careful here DW,, about the privilege part , these essential workers provided supplies back and forth across a international border for both countries , it was a job ! And something apparently , they had been
Doing a very long time. And if they all had been jabbed ,? then obviously, it became a matter of principal.? Ehhh.?


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24 Feb 2022, 10:58 pm

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/ ... ponse.html

"Unvaccinated travellers will continue to be required to test on arrival to Canada, on Day 8 and quarantine for 14 days. Unvaccinated foreign nationals will not be permitted to enter Canada unless they meet one of the few exemptions."


Unvaccinated travellers still need to quarantine for 14 days, so yes -- the truckers still face challenges.


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24 Feb 2022, 11:18 pm

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https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2022/02/government-of-canada-lightens-border-measures-as-part-of-transition-of-the-pandemic-response.html

"Unvaccinated travellers will continue to be required to test on arrival to Canada, on Day 8 and quarantine for 14 days. Unvaccinated foreign nationals will not be permitted to enter Canada unless they meet one of the few exemptions."


Unvaccinated travellers still need to quarantine for 14 days, so yes -- the truckers still face challenges.


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24 Feb 2022, 11:20 pm

Pepe wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2022/02/government-of-canada-lightens-border-measures-as-part-of-transition-of-the-pandemic-response.html

"Unvaccinated travellers will continue to be required to test on arrival to Canada, on Day 8 and quarantine for 14 days. Unvaccinated foreign nationals will not be permitted to enter Canada unless they meet one of the few exemptions."


Unvaccinated travellers still need to quarantine for 14 days, so yes -- the truckers still face challenges.


"You go, gurl!" :mrgreen:



^ That's the new rules which haven't even come into effect yet.

And according to that quote, unvaxxed American truckers can't enter at all.


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25 Feb 2022, 3:39 am

The Canadian economic genius has created some unforeseen (by him) consequences. :mrgreen:

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Canadians Withdraw Money from Banks in Astonishing Numbers
By Ana Ojeda Caracas
21 February 2022, 01:18 GMT+0000
Updated by Nicole Buckler
21 February 2022, 01:31 GMT+0000

Canadians are withdrawing money from banks as the government threatens to freeze accounts without the need for a court order

Detainees will become members of a "misconduct" file where they will be banned from accessing certain types of employment, plus will be named as terrorists

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies might be an effective mechanism to overcome unreasonable government actions


https://beincrypto.com/canadians-withdr ... g-numbers/



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25 Feb 2022, 5:13 am

Can you blame them suddenly their gov has started behaving in a fiscally unresponsive manner to its own citizens.
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