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goldfish21
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06 Sep 2022, 9:00 am
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Judge grants Trump's request for a 'special master' to review materials seized from Mar-a-Lago.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/05/poli ... index.html
I think this is great news. It will be interesting to see how this neutral party assesses the matter.
As I recall there was a lot of balking over this taking place.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/05/poli ... index.html
I think this is great news. It will be interesting to see how this neutral party assesses the matter.
As I recall there was a lot of balking over this taking place.
As there should be a lot of balking:
goldfish21 wrote:
If this guy is correct, it seems the judge that awarded trumplestiltskin a special master may have erred bigly:
https://fb.watch/fmgiJ9sNw1/
https://fb.watch/fmgiJ9sNw1/
Hardly a neutral judge.. a trump appointed inexperienced judge shuffled onto the court at the last minute = biased judge doing biased things.
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06 Sep 2022, 9:01 am
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Don't all presidents retain special documents? Didn't Obama retain 60k? My guess is this is going to end up just being a matter of process. As in there wouldn't have been a problem if Trump had gone through a procedure. In either case, I still don't get why he didn't just make copies.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
That's akin to saying bank robbery is a process crime only because someone didn't go through the process of earning their own money and stole it instead.
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06 Sep 2022, 9:04 am
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I think what's really going to matter is what those documents are. If they are or come close to being "nuclear documents". We will find out after the special master looks them over. I'm expecting the usual anti-climax.
Who knows, it might even be ordered that the documents be returned to Trump. Wouldn’t that be a scream?
Who knows, it might even be ordered that the documents be returned to Trump. Wouldn’t that be a scream?
Um, no.
What's probably actually going to matter is the cover up more than the initial crime.. the lying, saying that documents were returned when they weren't, ignoring the subpoena etc. Even if it turns out that stolen documents were no big deal, lying about their theft and storage and return etc are all bigger deals. Same holds true for many crimes - the initial crime is a problem.. the lies and cover ups are much bigger problems.
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goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Don't all presidents retain special documents? Didn't Obama retain 60k? My guess is this is going to end up just being a matter of process. As in there wouldn't have been a problem if Trump had gone through a procedure. In either case, I still don't get why he didn't just make copies.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
That's akin to saying bank robbery is a process crime only because someone didn't go through the process of earning their own money and stole it instead.
You're good at coming up with really bad analogies.
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06 Sep 2022, 9:08 am
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Don't all presidents retain special documents? Didn't Obama retain 60k? My guess is this is going to end up just being a matter of process. As in there wouldn't have been a problem if Trump had gone through a procedure. In either case, I still don't get why he didn't just make copies.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
That's akin to saying bank robbery is a process crime only because someone didn't go through the process of earning their own money and stole it instead.
You're good at coming up with really bad analogies.
You're good at twisting logic into pretzels to defend the orange guy for some inexplicable reason. Good thing you have zero influence over the actual outcome and there are responsible adults & highly educated trained professionals dealing with the criminal.
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06 Sep 2022, 9:35 am
Matrix Glitch wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The reason why classified documents are taken so seriously......is that they COULD be sold to the highest bidder. Hence, the "Espionage" aspect of the investigation.
Why did Trump take all these documents back to his home, instead of immediately putting them in the Archives?
Imagine if Nixon did that?
Why did Trump take all these documents back to his home, instead of immediately putting them in the Archives?
Imagine if Nixon did that?
Maybe he actually just wanted them for his library.
Yea that’s it, then he can loan them out for others to thumb through.At a price.
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06 Sep 2022, 9:57 am
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Don't all presidents retain special documents? Didn't Obama retain 60k? My guess is this is going to end up just being a matter of process. As in there wouldn't have been a problem if Trump had gone through a procedure. In either case, I still don't get why he didn't just make copies.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
Then again maybe making copies is illegal. It would be funny if he was following the law in that regard. Especially if he was planning on espionage.
That's akin to saying bank robbery is a process crime only because someone didn't go through the process of earning their own money and stole it instead.
You're good at coming up with really bad analogies.
You're good at twisting logic into pretzels to defend the orange guy for some inexplicable reason. Good thing you have zero influence over the actual outcome and there are responsible adults & highly educated trained professionals dealing with the criminal.
We all have zero influence here kiddo, that's what makes this so much fun.
