F.B.I. Raids Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate

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Oh my, some bleary eyed angry guy on Facebook. How compelling.

That guy on facebook seems to know American law quite well. He might even be a lawyer - I dunno; I'm not familiar with him. But he seems a whole heck of a lot more informed about it than anyone in this thread.

Here's another guy in this clip that takes issue with the ruling:

https://fb.watch/fnfpERKTqc/

Seems it's a common thing that people who know what they're talking about take issue with this.

Here's another expert chiming in on the judge's bias/mistakes:

https://fb.watch/fngAje44Wd/

Corrupt.

I watched the last one. It reminds me of the Republicans complaining about the magistrate who granted the Mar a Lago search warrant, saying he had whatever connection to Obama so he was biased, and the procedure was wrong and so on just like that guy. A third party impartial arbitrator is plenty common. Usually both sides agree to it.

I'm sure if the arbitrator says what the anti folks want to hear, they'll immediately change their tune and start defending the appointment and conclusions. But I think that's unlikely considering how keen Trump was to have someone in the middle go though everything. So there will be endless insistence that it was fixed.

Here's a couple of news clips. One from MSNBC and one from Fox to get some balance.

Let's hope the "special master" is impartial, and not a Trump lackey.

msnbc video has actual legal experts giving their opinions, including trump's own attorney general, bill barr. fox "news," that recently lost their trusted news source rating (and probably should have years ago) & has argued in court that they're not news, they're news entertainment, had trump's 3rd or 4th string lawyer on to try to spin things.. complaining that a standard evidence photo is biased, that the doj is somehow politically motivated, and something something Hillary!

Yes, 2 completely balanced counter perspectives, indeed.

Also, ~no one has ever heard of a "special master," before in the American justice system who doesn't work in it or in close proximity to it. That's why every media outlet has began by explaining to people what one even is. And in this case what they are is a delay tactic intended to run down the clock for trumplestiltskin until it's closer to election time so he can cry that being investigated for the crimes he committed is presidential candidate harassment!

On the bright side, I wasn't actually sipping coffee while watching the faux news clip nor composing this post.. or I might have spit it all over my chromebook.

lol forgot to mention how ridiculous it sounds to complain that the magistrate was appointed 2 presidents ago, and served trump's administration and wasn't fired in his umpteen rounds of firing anyone he didn't like, and somehow they're biased because ___ reasons ??? Obama did it! HILLARY!! !

I've never heard of a "special master" before this.

Here is Wikipedia's take on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_master

Since conservative legal experts I listen to felt the government case against a special master was spot on, I am guessing that the legal opinion and precedence from this judge are highly flawed, exactly as asserted.

What the whole thing really is is a delaying tactic, keeping the government from reviewing the documents.

Trump is especially masterful at delaying potential legal cases against him (not to say I think there is anything in the documents that would create one, beyond the obvious fact he shouldn't have had the documents, but it is looking like he thinks there might be).

I've worked with a few. Financial accounts, books, and records might be assigned to a special master when people distrust the person or entities holding them.

Mostly gets expensive fast, and slows everything way way down.

Yep.....definitely a "delaying tactic."

Huh, the takes I'm seeing on the special master are more that it's a delaying tactic from the Biden administration, to avoid having to make a charging decision right before the midterms.

Trump is the one who proposed this….

Trump thinks he might benefit from this.

Who’s spinning it that way?

I read a few days ago that indictments are imminent, but being held until after midterms to avoid the appearance of partisans interference like when the FBI torpedoed Hillary’s campaign.

Hm, how does that add up? Not saying isn't possible, just saying I don't see the trail. According to the government filing in the case, all the documents had already been reviewed. Why would they say that - and file a slam dunk brief - if they wanted this ruling? Plus all signs point to the judge being loyal to Trump, if loyal to anyone.

It is tradition for government agencies to hold off on anything that could influence an election until election season is over. I can't see why anything more would need to be said by anyone in government than that. Comey got ripped for violating the tradition, neither political side ending up happy with how that played out, if I recall correctly.