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06 Sep 2022, 8:09 pm

According to this, one of the classified documents trump stole pertained to some other country’s nuclear capabilities:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/material ... ago-report

Seems that’s no bueno for America’s reputation if a potus can’t keep secrets.


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06 Sep 2022, 8:21 pm

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According to this, one of the classified documents trump stole pertained to some other country’s nuclear capabilities:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/material ... ago-report

Seems that’s no bueno for America’s reputation if a potus can’t keep secrets.

My guess is he planned to sell the information to the highest bidder.


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06 Sep 2022, 8:23 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
According to this, one of the classified documents trump stole pertained to some other country’s nuclear capabilities:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/material ... ago-report

Seems that’s no bueno for America’s reputation if a potus can’t keep secrets.

My guess is he planned to sell the information to the highest bidder.

Maybe.

Could have just been info he gave as a favour in exchange for not calling his loans all at the same time when they come due.

No matter what way you slice it, I can’t imagine a scenario where he didn’t intend to personally gain from them - even IF it turns out he only stole them to have the bragging rights that he possessed them.


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06 Sep 2022, 8:52 pm

This reminds me of some of the kings. sultans and emirs in the middle east who are basically allowed to conduct themselves in a criminal manner and are immune from prosecution because of their positions of power.

Trump is behaving in the same way



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06 Sep 2022, 8:56 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
According to this, one of the classified documents trump stole pertained to some other country’s nuclear capabilities:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/material ... ago-report

Seems that’s no bueno for America’s reputation if a potus can’t keep secrets.

My guess is he planned to sell the information to the highest bidder.

Those kinds of articles seem to be all the same. It's virtually always 'according to the Washington Post officials involved with the case said...' I remember reading one article after another just like that during Russiagate. One scenario after another. So I can't help but feel skeptical over this. And the idea of a former potus who's monitored by the secret service, putting government documents up for auction on the back market, or going door to door trying sell them, is just too far fetched in my opinion.



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06 Sep 2022, 9:06 pm

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Let's hope the "special master" is impartial, and not a Trump lackey.

If the SM finds significant dirt, then he'll be hailed as a hero. If the SM finds nothing damming, then he'll be condemned as a lackey and there will be lots of protesting and demands that his findings be rendered invalid etc.



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06 Sep 2022, 9:13 pm

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Since conservative legal experts I listen to felt the government case against a special master was spot on, I am guessing that the legal opinion and precedence from this judge are highly flawed, exactly as asserted.

What the whole thing really is is a delaying tactic, keeping the government from reviewing the documents.

Trump is especially masterful at delaying potential legal cases against him (not to say I think there is anything in the documents that would create one, beyond the obvious fact he shouldn't have had the documents, but it is looking like he thinks there might be).

What would Trump gain through causing a relatively brief delay though?



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06 Sep 2022, 9:27 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Since conservative legal experts I listen to felt the government case against a special master was spot on, I am guessing that the legal opinion and precedence from this judge are highly flawed, exactly as asserted.

What the whole thing really is is a delaying tactic, keeping the government from reviewing the documents.

Trump is especially masterful at delaying potential legal cases against him (not to say I think there is anything in the documents that would create one, beyond the obvious fact he shouldn't have had the documents, but it is looking like he thinks there might be).

What would Trump gain through causing a relatively brief delay though?


Time?

He'll use every delay tactic he can to prolong things until it gets close to an election and then cry that the DOJ can't possibly indict him for his crimes *now* because it's too close to an election and they must be trying to interfere with his chances of being elected.

Everything with him is a "kick the can down the road," as far as possible move so he can delay having to face consequences for his actions. Up until this point it's all been run of the mill scams and grifts, fraudulent university, fake kids cancer charities etc.. but this time he's really kicked the wrong hornets nest and he knows he's gonna get stung. Doesn't stop him from doing as he's always done and trying to delay delay delay, though.


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06 Sep 2022, 9:32 pm

Ex-FBI official: Trump’s inner circle should worry “how many of us are going to be charged”

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/ex-fbi ... d_partner/


Makes sense when you get busted for such a major crime spree & then admit to it publicly on the internet over and over while also changing your story. :ketchup chips:


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06 Sep 2022, 9:32 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Since conservative legal experts I listen to felt the government case against a special master was spot on, I am guessing that the legal opinion and precedence from this judge are highly flawed, exactly as asserted.

What the whole thing really is is a delaying tactic, keeping the government from reviewing the documents.

Trump is especially masterful at delaying potential legal cases against him (not to say I think there is anything in the documents that would create one, beyond the obvious fact he shouldn't have had the documents, but it is looking like he thinks there might be).

What would Trump gain through causing a relatively brief delay though?


Time?

He'll use every delay tactic he can to prolong things until it gets close to an election and then cry that the DOJ can't possibly indict him for his crimes *now* because it's too close to an election and they must be trying to interfere with his chances of being elected.

Everything with him is a "kick the can down the road," as far as possible move so he can delay having to face consequences for his actions. Up until this point it's all been run of the mill scams and grifts, fraudulent university, fake kids cancer charities etc.. but this time he's really kicked the wrong hornets nest and he knows he's gonna get stung. Doesn't stop him from doing as he's always done and trying to delay delay delay, though.

While it's likely this and the Jan 6 hearings will drag out past the midterms, it's highly unlikely that it would take a special master anywhere near two years to review those documents.



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06 Sep 2022, 9:34 pm

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Ex-FBI official: Trump’s inner circle should worry “how many of us are going to be charged”

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/ex-fbi ... d_partner/


Makes sense when you get busted for such a major crime spree & then admit to it publicly on the internet over and over while also changing your story. :ketchup chips:

Why do you select such poor sources like FB and Salon to go by?



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06 Sep 2022, 9:41 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Since conservative legal experts I listen to felt the government case against a special master was spot on, I am guessing that the legal opinion and precedence from this judge are highly flawed, exactly as asserted.

What the whole thing really is is a delaying tactic, keeping the government from reviewing the documents.

Trump is especially masterful at delaying potential legal cases against him (not to say I think there is anything in the documents that would create one, beyond the obvious fact he shouldn't have had the documents, but it is looking like he thinks there might be).

What would Trump gain through causing a relatively brief delay though?


Time?

He'll use every delay tactic he can to prolong things until it gets close to an election and then cry that the DOJ can't possibly indict him for his crimes *now* because it's too close to an election and they must be trying to interfere with his chances of being elected.

Everything with him is a "kick the can down the road," as far as possible move so he can delay having to face consequences for his actions. Up until this point it's all been run of the mill scams and grifts, fraudulent university, fake kids cancer charities etc.. but this time he's really kicked the wrong hornets nest and he knows he's gonna get stung. Doesn't stop him from doing as he's always done and trying to delay delay delay, though.

While it's likely this and the Jan 6 hearings will drag out past the midterms, it's highly unlikely that it would take a special master anywhere near two years to review those documents.

You don't think trumplestiltskin is going to come up with additional delay tactics? :?


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06 Sep 2022, 9:41 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ex-FBI official: Trump’s inner circle should worry “how many of us are going to be charged”

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/ex-fbi ... d_partner/


Makes sense when you get busted for such a major crime spree & then admit to it publicly on the internet over and over while also changing your story. :ketchup chips:

Why do you select such poor sources like FB and Salon to go by?

I don't seek them out. I happen across them on fb, so that's where they're from. Much more credible than faux news, at least.


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06 Sep 2022, 9:50 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ex-FBI official: Trump’s inner circle should worry “how many of us are going to be charged”

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/ex-fbi ... d_partner/


Makes sense when you get busted for such a major crime spree & then admit to it publicly on the internet over and over while also changing your story. :ketchup chips:

Why do you select such poor sources like FB and Salon to go by?

I don't seek them out. I happen across them on fb, so that's where they're from. Much more credible than faux news, at least.

Sources like FB and Salon are the epitome of fake news.



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06 Sep 2022, 10:03 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ex-FBI official: Trump’s inner circle should worry “how many of us are going to be charged”

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/ex-fbi ... d_partner/


Makes sense when you get busted for such a major crime spree & then admit to it publicly on the internet over and over while also changing your story. :ketchup chips:

Why do you select such poor sources like FB and Salon to go by?

I don't seek them out. I happen across them on fb, so that's where they're from. Much more credible than faux news, at least.

Sources like FB and Salon are the epitome of fake news.

:lol: Says the guy posting video clips from fox as a source of "balance," against actual reporting..


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06 Sep 2022, 10:56 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Ex-FBI official: Trump’s inner circle should worry “how many of us are going to be charged”

https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/ex-fbi ... d_partner/


Makes sense when you get busted for such a major crime spree & then admit to it publicly on the internet over and over while also changing your story. :ketchup chips:

Why do you select such poor sources like FB and Salon to go by?

I don't seek them out. I happen across them on fb, so that's where they're from. Much more credible than faux news, at least.

Sources like FB and Salon are the epitome of fake news.

:lol: Says the guy posting video clips from fox as a source of "balance," against actual reporting..

Yeah it's called hearing both sides. What source should I have used for the other side other than Fox?