Accoring to PETA apergers is caused by meat...

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^ I would not say that we are as omnivorous as we believe. We are very similar to the chimp in biological structure, and chimps have meat as only 5% of our diet. We are not like bears at all. We are actually opportunistic omnivores, we are set up for plant digestion but will eat meat at times. But because of our ability to dominate the other animals in our environment, we eat more meat than we are biologically designed to eat. Our dentition, gut and digestive tract is set up for a diet dominated by plant food, with a small amount of meat, like the chimp. Look at this link, and scroll down to where it talks about the chimp's diet.

http://www.honoluluzoo.org/chimpanzee.htm

Here's an interesting article.

http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html

They seem to be omnivors as well as we are. Of course, their weapons aren't quite as efficient as those of a caveman. Having said that, they manage to kill many different types of prey items.

For either chimps or ourselves, a vegan diet is unnatural. I should also note that zoos may well be providing the chimps with an unnatural diet far different then what the chimps want themselves.

I didnt say that chimps aren't omnivores, or that we aren't. I am saying that we, and chimps are opportunistic omnivores. We eat what we can get hold of. But many people can live without meat- 40% of India's population does, and many others in India eat meat infrequently. I know of an Indian man I met who is vegetarian, and his grandfather, who was also vegetarian, lived till 91. So, clearly his diet did that man no harm.

I really wouldn't survive on a vegan diet anyways, considering allergies and all. Plus as a counterpoint to the last part. My family eats PLENTY of meat (We don't do much in the way of fried foods, plus most of the meat we eat is in the way of seafood or white meat, plus yeah, plenty of fruits and vegetables along with it) and my great grandparents are still alive other than one who got black lung from coal mining. (96 for the youngest, 102 for the oldest). The only one in a nursing home is my great grandmother who ended up falling down a flight of steps recently. The rest live on their own with minimal assistance. So I am just gonna make the point that your DNA also plays quite a bit into it. Also how the food is prepped matters. We also don't usually go to a supermarket for food, we usually turn to local farmers and the butcher shop. (my area is big on the open range or whatever its called where the livestock aren't all cooped up either.)

People are probably always going to crave meat. It's just something in their DNA. Humans are omnivores, not herbavores. If we can grow individual organs and skin in a lab, I think we could surely grow steaks or something like a steak. People are also too lazy to get this idea off the drawing board.

I really don't understand the Animal Rights Activist's whole view on humans and meat. So they think it's OK for lions, tigers, and bears to eat meat but when humans do it it's evil and bad for you? That's just an idiotic double standard. Even apes eat meat, and they're closest animal to humans on this planet.

Then again there's eco-terrorists out there who think humans are the cancer of the earth and that the world would be better off if we all went extinct so plants and animals can take over the planet. So I guess with every good intention you have those fanatics who twist the idea around to do more harm then good. Thus is the nature of humanity.

well, humanity really does more harm than good. Less babies pl0x

The PETA folks are anti-human.

ruveyn

I dearly wish we could grow steaks in labs! That would make me very happy. I would actually eat it again if this was the case.

I never felt like I was a person. Perhaps this is why I have always been facinated by PETA and the ALF. I've always been one of those "freaks" who puts animals higher than humans.

There is nothing wrong with being humane to animals but put your own interests as a human first.

ruveyn

I guess I am one of those freaks who see animals as equal to humans. They dont have the cognitive reasoning power that we do, but I have experienced enough wonderful altruistic behaviours from them that I am in no doubt that there is a deeply feeling being inside them.

Even the less emotional animals feel physical pain. I see humans as an animal similar to the chimpanzee, and on the primate/rodent branch of the earth's family tree.

I have also seen evidence of intelligence in animals that made me realise that we are very wrong about the way that they experience the world, and that there is far more going on within those furry or scaly skins than we ever imagined.

exactly. Still doesn't mean I wont eat meat though.

At least you're not one of those freaks who puts plants higher then humans like this lady here.

As a human, I feel it is my moral duty to hunt and consume animals. What PETA doesn't seem to consider is that we have taken away many animals' natural predators, and without someone to 'thin the herd' the rest would become so overpopulated that they risk starvation and disease outbreaks. Unless PETA wants to reintroduce wolves, pumas, and bears back into all of their former habitat, then they should quit griping.

bears all over the place here. Supposedly some wolf and puma/cougar sightings even though they are technically extirpated from our state. I do see plenty of bobcats and coyotes though (there has been research done on the eastern coyote, and it is highly probably that quite a few of them are coyote-wolf hybrids. If I find the article again I will post it. well, found one of the articles. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32976657/ns/technology_and_science-science/

BTW which area of the state are ya in anyways Metalwolf? Im stuck in ye olde anthracite regions of carbon county :/


also yeah someone mentioned PETA = People eating tasty animals, as a joke. I instead opt for calling myself a Humanitarian when around vegans if they start annoying me.