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11 Jan 2011, 12:28 am

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I do not think any side is innocent as the further politicization is simply political in of itself.


Actually, I think both Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have a right to be angry. They have 24/7 security for themselves and their children because of constant death threats. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Hannity has to have bodyguards as well.

Glenn Beck if you would watch what he says in the video points out that the guy was just plain nuts, and neither side is to blame.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:31 am

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ci wrote:
I do not think any side is innocent as the further politicization is simply political in of itself.


Actually, I think both Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have a right to be angry. They have 24/7 security for themselves and their children because of constant death threats. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Hannity has to have bodyguards as well.

Glenn Beck if you would watch what he says in the video points out that the guy was just plain nuts, and neither side is to blame.


I've heard of these people. I do not know much about these people. If I made a fragrance for each one of them then perhaps political monkey's of all kinds would support the employment program. I have a candle called monkey farts that was on the front page of a newspaper as a featured story. It sells out all the time.

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11 Jan 2011, 12:32 am

Inuyasha wrote:
ci wrote:
I do not think any side is innocent as the further politicization is simply political in of itself.


Actually, I think both Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have a right to be angry. They have 24/7 security for themselves and their children because of constant death threats. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Hannity has to have bodyguards as well.

Glenn Beck if you would watch what he says in the video points out that the guy was just plain nuts, and neither side is to blame.

Before we decide that, let's look at the evidence. If this guy spent his time visiting conservative websites like Palin's daily, and was a member of the tea party express, might as well fess up and call him a right wing extremist. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out in the trial, if anything.
He could have been deranged too, but that doesn't mean he wasn't or can't be a member of the far right.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:33 am

Left wing has nuts to. No side is innocent. I really think allot of people are crazy in this world.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:35 am

That's true and when one of them does something and the evidence says it was done by a member of the far left, let the public know but don't gloss over this guy's affiliation just because the tea party is a populist movement at the moment. The guy is what he is.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:41 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
ci wrote:
I do not think any side is innocent as the further politicization is simply political in of itself.


Actually, I think both Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have a right to be angry. They have 24/7 security for themselves and their children because of constant death threats. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Hannity has to have bodyguards as well.

Glenn Beck if you would watch what he says in the video points out that the guy was just plain nuts, and neither side is to blame.

Before we decide that, let's look at the evidence. If this guy spent his time visiting conservative websites like Palin's daily, and was a member of the tea party express, might as well fess up and call him a right wing extremist. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out in the trial, if anything.
He could have been deranged too, but that doesn't mean he wasn't or can't be a member of the far right.


Doesn't mean he isn't a member of the Far Left either. However, one can prove that Sarah Palin had nothing to do with this, because he plotted to kill Giffords back in 2007, before anyone in the lower 48 even heard of Sarah Palin.

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/ ... ck-stop-it



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11 Jan 2011, 12:43 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
That's true and when one of them does something and the evidence says it was done by a member of the far left, let the public know but don't gloss over this guy's affiliation just because the tea party is a populist movement at the moment. The guy is what he is.


That seems fair. Also someone can have enough delusions to try and make one side look bad by trying to kill someone and they ended up really on another side. Politics is kind of complicated. I like speeches from Obama, Kennedy, Reagan, MLK and others. I just don't get most of the politics and they seem angry allot on the radio.

Politics are a source of madness as political people know how to use peoples delusions and general fear.

Crazy people.

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11 Jan 2011, 12:49 am

Inuyasha wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
ci wrote:
I do not think any side is innocent as the further politicization is simply political in of itself.


Actually, I think both Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have a right to be angry. They have 24/7 security for themselves and their children because of constant death threats. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Hannity has to have bodyguards as well.

Glenn Beck if you would watch what he says in the video points out that the guy was just plain nuts, and neither side is to blame.

Before we decide that, let's look at the evidence. If this guy spent his time visiting conservative websites like Palin's daily, and was a member of the tea party express, might as well fess up and call him a right wing extremist. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out in the trial, if anything.
He could have been deranged too, but that doesn't mean he wasn't or can't be a member of the far right.


Doesn't mean he isn't a member of the Far Left either. However, one can prove that Sarah Palin had nothing to do with this, because he plotted to kill Giffords back in 2007, before anyone in the lower 48 even heard of Sarah Palin.

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/ ... ck-stop-it

I thought he just visited a corner side congressperson meeting back then but didn't like what she said. First I heard of him planning to assassinate her in 2007. Btw I don't really trust Fox news links ;)
Of course Fox is going to make it look like it has nothing to do with Palin, she is one of their darlings and even works for them.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:59 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
ci wrote:
I do not think any side is innocent as the further politicization is simply political in of itself.


Actually, I think both Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck have a right to be angry. They have 24/7 security for themselves and their children because of constant death threats. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Hannity has to have bodyguards as well.

Glenn Beck if you would watch what he says in the video points out that the guy was just plain nuts, and neither side is to blame.

Before we decide that, let's look at the evidence. If this guy spent his time visiting conservative websites like Palin's daily, and was a member of the tea party express, might as well fess up and call him a right wing extremist. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out in the trial, if anything.
He could have been deranged too, but that doesn't mean he wasn't or can't be a member of the far right.


Doesn't mean he isn't a member of the Far Left either. However, one can prove that Sarah Palin had nothing to do with this, because he plotted to kill Giffords back in 2007, before anyone in the lower 48 even heard of Sarah Palin.

http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/ ... ck-stop-it

I thought he just visited a corner side congressperson meeting back then but didn't like what she said. First I heard of him planning to assassinate her in 2007. Btw I don't really trust Fox news links ;)
Of course Fox is going to make it look like it has nothing to do with Palin, she is one of their darlings and even works for them.


They're acting more responsible than the rest of the media is. How about you watch Beck and listen to the facts he presents before you make yourself look even more like an idiot.



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11 Jan 2011, 1:03 am

I've listened to Beck's rhetoric and if this Jared Lee Laughner supports the far right it should be reported and not glossed over. I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why not just be truthful instead of bowing to the populists? If the tea party is so great this guy being on the far right won't put a dent in them anyway, So why are they so worried about it?



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11 Jan 2011, 1:11 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I've listened to Beck's rhetoric and if this Jared Lee Laughner supports the far right it should be reported and not glossed over. I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why not just be truthful instead of bowing to the populists? If the tea party is so great this guy being on the far right won't put a dent in them anyway, So why are they so worried about it?


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11 Jan 2011, 1:23 am

Although I still think Mr. Loughner is likely an anarchist, politics had nothing to do with his motives. I think it was a case of a guy with schizophrenia who stopped taking his meds. I mean even the "right-wing gun nuts" who are practically fascist have enough restraint not to shoot congresswomen.


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11 Jan 2011, 1:31 am

Speaking of right wing gun nuts...


http://thenewsportalonline.com/arizona- ... ch/118257/



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11 Jan 2011, 1:34 am

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Fundamentalist terrorist just like their are at times Muslim terrorist. I went to a church school for a while and I don't hate religious. It's just that sometimes it's really really confusing stuff then they get impatient.



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11 Jan 2011, 3:46 am

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Wow, I lost the thread of what he was trying to say reading that. I guess that is what is called a 'rant'.



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11 Jan 2011, 3:59 am

I think society is fairly used to violence, violence inciting talk said as metaphor and it is surprising anyone would disagree with the approach. For any side to agree with stopping it would compromise special interests and points of view. Humans can be such cowards because to feel they are wrong at times means loosing and there is no ability it seems in politics to do that. I don't like politics as the point is to not get along and it will always be divided. It seems crazy to me because people will hyper-react and create and imagine into things over words but just as easily the power of words manifest in trend as they did despite side and then someone actually pulled a trigger. To agree with this is political when the obvious is so utterly clear but no one can be wrong who put cross hairs over a congress womens district who disagreed with the verbiage and who then was shot. I think it's beyond politics, it's common sense and common sense typically defeats both sides in typical politics.

I am fairly confident in saying history will see this event and the behaviors leading up to it as clearly inciting to what happened but cannot be clear as to if the terrorist did it to make a certain political party look bad. As for the crazy church folks congratulating the terrorist they should be asked to leave the country but not forced. As for the political wings blaming one another, get a grip, the world does not revolve around you damn points of view and the issue is much larger and more important then speaking points to use the issue to your advantage. Both republican and democrats are at times wrong, do wrong and blunder.