ABC News: Climate Change No Longer a Theory, It's Happening

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The rise in food costs is being caused by speculaters. Same for oil.

Real estate is dead, gold up 400%, Trillions were given to the banks, brokers, who bought all the stocks at record lows, they caused, and now the world has lots of dollars seeking profit, so they buy grain and store it.

Take 5% out of the normal market, prices go up.

It is The Chicago Board of Trade tax on the world's food supply.

What started as a means of getting the best price for producers and consumers, now has middlemen buying everything, and restricting supply.

The root cause is doubling the amount of dollars, QE2, other Federal Reserve programs, which leads to a lack of investments. All of the wheat can be bought using Federal funds, for 0.25% interest, and wheat prices double. The same for other grains, oil, metals, which moves half or more of the cost of everything onto the banks profits.

If any one industry did this it would be called price fixing, and they would go to jail.

Following the Goldman Sachs buyout of The Government, and taking it private, it is called National Policy.

Inuits do see the consequences of climate change.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/21/AR2006032101722.html

When I lived in Northern Minnesota for 2 years, one of the first things that I noticed was the forrests which are made of mostly paper birch and aspen are dying. I found out that it has not been getting cold enough in the winter for the paper birch as it needs temps of -20 or colder for 3 or more weeks for this special sap to run through it acting like anti-freeze but also plays a role in the paper birch's overall health. With the death of the forrests and higher temps, came the death of some species and the overpopulation of non native species like the white tail deer which eat alot of the saplings preventing the forrest from growing back. In a pine forrest, deer are not as troublesome because they dont like pine as much as hardwoods, but in a birch forrests white tail deer are very problematic and non native but migrated with warmer temps. All the old timers say that winter is not like was 30 years ago...where -40 degrees was not unusual in the winter, but now it rarely gets below -10 for more than a day.
I saw for my own eyes the effects of climate change, and believed.

Would human inititaves like vertical farming, microponics, aquaponics, clean energy and the like slow down the rate that the permafrost is melting, and releasing methane, like you mentioned?

Yes the climate is changing. We are entering a mini or a full blown Ice Age.

If the last three winters didn't give you the hint then just wait another couple of years.

Obama insists that he is going to drive the American coal industry into bankruptcy despite the fact that half of America's electricity comes from coal and also despite the fact that China is building coal fired power stations at the rate of two a week.

Here in Australia we have heaps of coal but we are not allowed to build more power stations because that would be "naughty".

But we WILL sell all the coal to China so that THEY can burn it.
Go figure.

I do not think it could. We did not cause this, it has been building for 15,000 years, with a steep warming between 13,000 and 10,000 years ago, then much slower, sea level rising a foot a year.

The Arctic Ocean is not ice free because of us. That was a long time in the making. The last time, 27,000 to 22,000 years ago, sea level was seven meters higher, all the ice melted, warm enough for stone age cultures to live above the Arctic Circle, Oak trees moved far north.

Climate change is not that complex. Loss of the ice cover does it. Land covered in ice is near freezing, insulated, and cold moves over it and farther south. Bare ground can become minus fifty, and winters to the south are warmer, Like Minnesota, with more snow. It gets too cold to snow, so mild winters, the right temp, snow.

The problem comes when moist air passes over deep frozen ground, which causes snow, contraction of the air mass, drawing in more behind, in an endless conveyer from warm ocean to flowing over a growing mountain of snow, and adding more. Last time, 22,000 to 18,000 years ago, fifty kilometers.

Our current interglacial period is about 10,000 years old, which is twice as long as the last two. Together they add up to 20,000 years out of the last 150,000. Ice kept humans in Africa until 50,000 years ago, then they developed through the three following warm periods, and mostly died durning the two returns of the ice.

We are a tropical species, can adapt to some cold, but not fifty kilometers of snow.

As we have been adapting to a warming world for 15,000 years, we should stick with it. One, we cannot stop it, two, a return of the snow would kill us.

There is a warm winter problem, more snow falls farther south. Trees and species change.

Opening the gap in Panama would produce even warmer winters, where the snow would fall farther north, covering the bare ground that can trigger an ice age. It will be cold, but not super cold. The Temperate band would get wider, more rain, and a doubling of farmable land.

Taking heat from the tropics would cool them, the main heat engine of the oceans, and a faster current would stir up cold and rich water from the bottom. This produces a cooler tropics, and a warmer temperate zone.

Besides the ground that can get super cold, the Arctic Ocean being ice free leaves melted ice, fresh water, on the surface, with very cold salt water beneath. As the salt is denser, it pushes up, the fresh flows out over the rest of the oceans, then the Arctic surface becomes very cold salt water.

Fresh water evaporates faster, floats on salt, so there is suddenly a lot more moisture in the air. Warm saturated air, very cold north, ice age.

Since that means most of us die, we would do better with controlled warming. Heat comes from the Tropics, directing it away cools, and speeding up the ocean currents, as they are connected worldwide, will bring colder water to the surface, also cooling.

Snow in the north will cap the permafrost, and freeze it. Melt water will flow into the Arctic, more rain will fall farther south, longer growing seasons through Siberia, Canada.

Warming, and drought, as the Amazon article shows, are caused by an overheated tropics. It could be what formed the Sahara 8,000 years ago. Before that it was rivers, lakes, trees and grassland for a long time. Hurricanes form in the tropics.

Heat rises, the tropics are a thin film of overheated water over a deep and cold ocean. Better circulation and there is cold to buffer the climate for thousands of years.

Moving it around does not add heat to the system, it spreads it where it can do some good, and away from where it causes problems.

The poles are naturally colder, so the ice will continue and grow.

It is like a house, one hot room in the center, one on each side that are warm to cold, with a cold room at each end. Expand the size of the warm rooms, and open the door to the hot. Spreading the heat makes for comfortable living, and more surface for heat loss, leaving the end rooms cold.

The American southwest and northern Mexico were not deserts a thousand years ago. We can reverse this process. The Gobi was grassland, there is a lot of land to recover that is not in the far north.

The other choice is higher sea level and heat, or an ice age at any time. It could go either way from here. Wait too long, it would just re-enforce an ice age.

The basic goal is to cool the planet and prevent an Ice age.

Once there is a new normal, it is adjustable, making the rain fall a hundred miles north or south. A ten year cycle would be like a sprinkler.

It is our only hope for a long term stable climate that makes the most land useable.

There is some ditch digging and the valve, but then it runs on the natural energy of the earth.

As no one has an exact fix on the future climate, the same data supports warming or ice age, my data is no better or worse, but it is controlable.

We cannot quit using energy. Oil is running out. We have to come up with a long term solution while we still have the power to do it.

Have you thought of summiting your idea to the UN global task force on enviroment or whatever it is called???

Build two thousand breeder reactors from coast to coast. We will have all the energy we need.

ruveyn

@ inventor,

my mom and I were talking about speeding up natrual selection of plants to hardy them for cold climate by using the micro green technology of growing them untill they are barely larger than sprouts and the ones that survive the cold select and breed them and so on till you get really cold hardy plants in much time. Do u think this can be done??


Jojo

I think the UN gets paid for creating and maintaining problems.

Tapping the Yellowstone Caldera for Geothermal would give us all the power we need, and super cooled underground transmisson would spread it around.

We do have 25,000 atomic warheads to dispose of.

There is no reason for us to be burning coal. Except some people have friends in government.

No Next Generation will be allowed, as current generation is in control.

Energy would be very cheap, so would food, and all the efforts to corner the market would become worthless. Governments are based on scarcity.

It starts with taxing corn in England, to force people to work for wages, for the benefit of factory owners.

With twice the farmland, a green Sahara, and the rest of the Middle East, Africa through the Sahal, and out to China, Government and industry would lose control.

For over a hundred years things have been manipulated to drive people off the land, into cities, where they could work for someone else, pay rent, and buy food.

What I am proposing is the Deflation the Fed fears, Falling prices for everything, and money losing control of the economy.

Consider a world with a partial ice age. Just enough to expose the continental shelves, the best land, with ice from Greenland north. All of the shelves are farmland. We would still expand farmland north, and recover deserts.

Most of the world spends up to half of their income on food. Cheaper food is World Liberation. Both Obama and Osama consider me a dangerous radical.

Egypt will get a new government, but still have low wages and high food prices. Lower food prices gives everyone a raise. They will buy other goods, new markets will develop. Well fed and prosperous people are a danger to governments everywhere. They always prefer food riots, martial law, and emergency powers, like Homeland Security. The People always prefer Freedom.

Our planet does have an enemy, an old one who comes back like Jason.

Ok, I am confused. I keep seeing articles like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBm8ogwnpG0
A car that runs on water.

Is it true or is it bull? If it is bull then why did they spend a lot of money on a fraud that can easily be disproved?

If it is true then why isn't everyone cheering from the rooftops and heaping Nobel Prizes on the inventors?

it would be nice if it were true. but i wonder how expensive it would have to be?

This is Mom C. I think it is time to callit like it is. America has become a third world country,in that it exports more raw goods than finished goods, now here is my question, how do you use methane from a large pig operation to run irrigation pumps. Greenhouses can also be powered by methane. If I were building a greenhouse for a cold climate,heavy snow,high winds, how would you all do it ? I would use prism glass to maximize the light but what would you do?

Climate Science Gravy Train

The climate of this planet has been changing for 4 billion years.

ruveyn