British soldier killed on street in London

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Good luck getting them to stand perfectly still while you get a good aim at that kneecap.

And crusading Sweden? There has been six full days of rioting there by uncivilised and barbaric Muslim immigrants in that country.

Sweden is a deeply leftist society that has avoided any foreign conflict, does not have strong relations with Israel (indeed, is anti-Israel to a large extent), and did not have an empire like Britain had. They invited hordes of the world's unproductive young men to live in their country, gave them benefits and a place to live. This is how they have repaid them. They've repaid them in other ways too, like raping local women, indulging in Islamic supremacism, and openly breeding terrorism.

It wouldn't matter if we acceded to all the Islamist demands and gave them back their rule of Andalusia, Hungary, half of Africa, southern Italy, etc etc. They would have more demands.



I live in England too. There's a lot of hatred for non-Muslims on Muslim websites too - the kind of which makes my skin crawl. If you haven't read it, there is bigotry on all sides. I think the police need to be even-handed when dealing with this situation. At the moment they just look ineffective and partisan.

Don't just think it's just non-Muslims writing horrific stuff - it isn't, and not by a long way. In the Quran alone, we are called "apes and pigs" (these terms are used regularly by Islamists to refer to Jews and Christians), "the worst of creatures", "kafir" (which, yes, the racist word 'kaffir' is derived from). The extreme disdain and supremacist nature of Islamic thinking to "the Other" can not be underestimated.



Like the one where Allah tells Muslims that it's a religious obligation to kill Jews, Christians, apostates, atheists and so on?



During the cases of the mass rapes of young girls in England recently, Muslims derived their legitimacy from the Quran for their actions, in particular in that they felt that they were at war, that these girls were their slaves, and so they could do what they wanted with them.

There is not in any way that moderating, Enlightenment tendency in Islam. Islam is Islam. The whole package. It's a religion, a law system, a political system, and a complete way of life. Dedicated Muslims do not see themselves as belonging to an actual nation - they see themselves as one identity, the Ummah (Islamic army).

The literalist Islamic movement is extremely popular here in the UK, aided by Salafi mosques.

Hate preachers up and down the country spread their filth to appreciative audiences. Children are indoctrinated with vile commands to hate apostates, atheists, Christians, Jews, gay people, to see women as inferior. Islam is nothing like Christianity in that respect. There are moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam.

Sane people will choose to ignore the more violent verses, but in doing so they are actually going against the teachings of their book.

Islam, in its literalist form, is preached across the world. This is why there are beheadings, terrorist attacks, honour killings, and the death penalty for being raped under Sharia.

Under Islamic law, the penalty for leaving (or speaking out against or criticising) Islam is death, and in places where fundamentalists call the shots, this is eagerly carried out. This isn't simply any normal religion.

There goes your Muslim. Different mountain. Different God.

ruveyn

A Right wing hegemony has been established in Sweden and the result is the greatest rate of increasing inequality in the West as the achievements of the Social Democrats are being stripped away. It's not unlike the riots in Britain under Thatcher when the same processes were at work. It has nothing to do with an Islamic conspiracy.

I can bet you that there will be people crying islamophobia just because of the arrest of men.

Are citizens making death threats on twitter? The BBC story I read casually mentions people getting arrested for what they say online.

In Paris, France, a French soldier part of the anti-terrorist force was stabbed in the neck by an assailant wielding a box cutter. The assailant has not yet been arrested. Could the hand that held the blade be attached to someone who says Allah hu'akbar five times a day?

ruveyn

Good chance for it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

They are saying stuff like all UK mosques should be burnt down, that all Muslims should be forcibly removed from the country or killed, that British Muslim children of Pakistani descent should have their heads cut off to see how they (the Muslim community) like it, and so on. All awful, horrible, stupid, angry, bigoted stuff, but it's met with similar stuff from the Islamist side.

If a murder, rapist, terrorist, whatever kind of evil person says 'I did this because I am a Muslim; because the Quran told me to, because my Imam told me to', then how can the emotional reaction of non-Muslims be anything but fear and disgust?

Not justifying reactive violence, BUT, someone basically said that as long as they are in England, they will attack non-Muslims, and feel obligated/commanded to do so.

How can people NOT feel that deportation is called for?

If members of a family living in an apartment building began committing dangerous activities, including attacking people, and the rest of the family was supportive of this, how could they not be evicted immediately?
And would the other residents not have the absolute right to demand this?

Sylkat

Legitimate military target. A far more targeted strike than those "signature" drone attacks and the infamous "double tap" follow-ups.

The media in the UK even went as far as to edit out the Islamic scriptural explanation and justification by the jihadis in the video interview that they gave!

The truth is being deliberately covered up by those of a multiculti persuasion.



Muslim organisations are presently screaming to the rooftops that they - not Lee Rigby, not the teenage (and pre-teenage) girls preyed on by the scores of Muslim paedophile gangs operating in this country, not the scores of other people murdered by Islamist terrorist attacks, not the people that suffer daily from the hatred and bigotry preached up and down the country in mosques, not the ex-Muslims and liberal reformists living in Muslim-majority areas that are threatened by Islamist thugs and so on and so forth - are the victims, that there is going to be a mass anti-Muslim backlash. Which is, as we've seen time and time again, absolute horses**t.

There wasn't a mass anti-Muslim backlash after 7/7, after the endless Muslim paedophile gang scandals (that the police, social services and establishment tried to cover up for decades), after the Muhammad cartoons, after the Wootton Basset 'burning poppies' debacle, over the years long Abu Qatada, Anjem Choudary, or Abu Hamza debacles, or after any other terrorist attack. They are lying scumbags.



Because most of them are legally our citizens. They are often second or third generation. We can't deport these people.

In European countries, right-wing anti-Islam parties are prominent precisely because of the same reasons that people are sick to the back teeth mass immigration, disgusting, separatist Islamic ghettoes and all the fun of the multiculti fair that we experience in this country.



Because that would actually be doing something about it, and the authorities are loathe to do that.

No it's not. If a soldier is in civilian clothes and is not serving in the front lines as part of a war then he counts as a civilian.

absolute nonsense.

Or there was, but it just wasn't given media exposure.

3 mosques were attacked by EDL members the same day as the Woolwich murder.

If wanting to airbrush Islam out of British society is the official UKIP position then they're no better than the opportunist scumbags in the BNP and EDL trying to score cheap political currency from a genuinely tragic event commited by a lone headcase. Islam is not the problem. The problem is indifferent politicians failing or unwilling to tackle the issues that extremist clerics are engaging such as the ongoing quagmire in Afghanistan and the hurt feelings of muslims over Palestine-Israel.

In other words cater to the extremists so they'll behave themselves.