Damaging story on ASD & child porn by Temple Grandin's m

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I doubt Eustacia Cutler wrote this up and turned it in to the Beast.

It sounds like a phone interview, get them talking, take clips, and string them together. What is missing is the leading questions that proceeded the replys. Edit, Paste, Publish.

If you want to see how twisted it can get, listen to Congress's views on the Constituion.

The Beast, like Autism Speaks and Internet Trolls, live on getting attention.

According to real people, FBI, CDC, autistic children have a 300% higher involvment in child/adult sex, and it stands to reason that they are also the Kingpins of Child Pornography. Autistic children are non verbal, so are the soundtracks of pornography. Scripts, and camera work, seem to have been done by an autistic child. All of the leading roles are given to children.

It is worse than it seems because only about a quarter of autistics are children, and of those, some just sit and spin the wheels of toy cars, like a reborn Buddhist Monks spinning Prayer Wheels, and developing detachment.

This leaves the whole of their seducing and subverting good upstanding adults, parents, teachers, preachers, politicians, in the hands of 0.10% of the population, Autistic Child Adult Abusers. Once they get them hooked, they blackmail them into videos, as no one would pay to watch children abuse children, that stuff can be seen at any school or playground.

Compared to Real American Sexually Abused Children, who are almost all white, Middle Class and upper, who go to the best schools, have the best clothes, the latest iphone, and lots of money to spend, this minority of autistic children are of lower economic class, which is why they become involved in 300% more sex, which is only what is discovered and reported.

It is very likely that this minority is exploiting millions of Americans with their detached sexuality. Only wealth gathered through control of the child porn market, can explain the fortune in Lego held by this small group.

They are undermining the weak and rotten supports of Western Civilization!

Thousands of Justice Professionals spend every day watching child pornography, to see if it is anyone they know. Thousands more from every State, County, City, do nothing but watch Child Pornography all day, and general pornography, to spot underage actors. It has not been enough, and Interagency Taskforces are being formed to watch Child Pornography.

Seeking to entrap the Autistic Child Cartel, they post porn, and arrest people who download it. Mostly it is downloaded by other Law Enforcement Professionals, on Offical Business, because they say so.

This is the latest model of Law Enforcment, and while it produces few arrests, none who have any connections in porn, or knowledge of the internet, where the first rule is, "Nothing Is Free", they have made a steady march toward a large Pension, better Medical, than the Citizens who pay them.

This doing things which are illegal, not only viewing, downloading the evidence file, but also posting, selling, and putting it out for reposting worldwide, is a new concept in justice, also seen in selling guns to buyers who are not qualified, to see what they do with them, and funding Terrorism,

The Government claims that they dispose of billions of dollars of illegal drugs should be seen in this light, they do get the drugs, and no one ever sees them again.

The behavior of Government since the War on Drugs started, could be explained by unlimited Cocaine. While drugs are a large part of our economy, none of the money is ever found.

Having a supply of drugs and money, watching child pornography, and tapping everyones phone, email, is a logical progression.

They have also called The Free Press, the Media, and taken over the planting of ideas. the point is to discredit people who have a following, see J Edger Hoover on Martin Luther King, and the sudden deaths of social leaders, Janis, Jimmie, and the deaths of political leaders, who did not support the Security State.

Where is this going? Libertarians are Autistic porn viewers, and even if elected, they will be stopped? Poison Press is planted for a reason.

Syria was all in the news when our terrorists were making trouble, and gone when Assad held the main cities and coastal area. Last spin I heard was he does not control the vast countryside where no one lives, and towns are ten mud huts.

Iraq is Saudi funded car bombs, and the American funded army took over Egypt, to stop elected governments from ruling.

Popular Governments are a threat to America, where government does what most of the people oppose.

So they try to change the subject, blame someone, stock disinformation, which has been growing since Viet Nam.

Temple is an opinion leader, Every million votes counts, and this is how Chicago Politics is played. Congress, The President, Supreme Court, Military, Security State, have never had a lower rating than now, and it is falling.

They will do anything, mine harbors, call fake terror alerts, to justify their protecting America. The next election could sweep them all out of office. In the runup to 2016, expect anything.

We have lost every war since Korea, lost economic leadership to China, have played the world policeman, who was taking kickbacks, and our position is unsupportable.

We spend the money but we do not get the manufacturing jobs, health care, or a defense that could defend our borders, we did get a Military Police who can turn our cities into prisons, and we are being treated as hostiles.

During Katrina our city was blockaded by troops with machine guns covering every access by land or water. People coming with food water, a boat, to give aid to our flooded city were turned back at gunpoint. It was not relief, it was practice in isolating a city, cutting off all supplies. Nothing got in for a week, and even the local Mayor and National Guard was calling Washington a**holes. 1570 died waiting for rescue, most older white women who died of thirst.

So I see it as trying to split our community, play us against each other, which is good, we do number millions, are vocal, and are a threat to the next election, and would vote Third Party.

Temple is a voice that millions have read and listen to. Notice the shot at Atwood, also an opinion leader.

If you cannot sway them by propaganda, destroy them by slander, and that piece was slander.

It is not working, Autistic writers are tearing this piece apart, taking the oppertunity to voice views that do have scientific support, and softly asking Temple, "How's your Mom?"

Just as we have deconstructed every other view of Autism, this one is grist for our mill, and we are getting the attention.

Government agents planting stories in media is as old as State Security Police. We have a very managed press. There is hope, some have objected to having their phones tapped, and it was not NSA Mega Data, it was the Washington Office of the leading press. When the Government wants to know who their sources are, something they have gone to jail over, you no longer have a Free Press.

The Power of the Press is they are biding their time, gathering information, and can change the outcome of the next election. Notice someones political future end with a story about his internet sex life? Now everything he does is reported to make him look bad. From presumed winner, to has been, in a week.

Over on AOL, for every comment, The Government has a right to do this, if you have done nothing you have nothing to fear, Comrad, there are ten or fifteen saying, this has gone too far, it is time to revolt before it gets any worse.

Mid Terms are going to be a bloodbath, and 2016 a fight for the soul of America.

This is not even "journalism" this is just bad taste

Not sure if all that was supposed to be serious or some sort of high-brow parody that went over my head......

Unfortunately, based on the behavior of the men at the aspie meetup group I used to attend, I kind of believe this article. It's unfortunate that there is a lack of data, but from a practical standpoint, I'm not sure how one would even go about gathering such data.

The problem is obviously bad enough that someone has put out a guide for prosecutors specifically on prosecuting autistic males for child porn: http://www.harringtonmahoney.com/docume ... -14-08.pdf

I don't have full access to this article but it does appear to indicate a high level of sexual deviancy among autistic males: http://link.springer.com/article/10.100 ... 006-0159-1.

Autism Spectrum Disorders and Stalking
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1538 ... t=Abstract

Are Sadomasochism and Hypersexuality in Autism Linked to Amygdalohippocampal Lesion?
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... ated=false

Autism spectrum disorder symptoms in juvenile suspects of sex offenses
"Levels of ASD symptoms are higher in juvenile suspects of sex offenses as compared to the healthy population, which argues for considering specific diagnostic assessment in this population, especially in solo offenders and child molesters." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19210944

"Abnormal receptive and narrow interests may be associated with criminal activities of AD offenders." (B. Haskins and J. Silva, “Asperger’s Disorder and Criminal Behavior: Forensic-Psychiatric Considerations,” 34(3) J. Am. Acad. Psychiatry & L. 374-84 (2006).

Y. Kohn, T. Fahum, G. Ratzoni, and A. Apter, “Aggression and Sexual Offence in Asperger’s Syndrome,” 35 Israel J. Psychiatry & Related Sci. 293-99 (1998).

"As stated, AD offenders have characteristics that elevate their risk in certain circumstances to commit sexual
offenses ... Other risk factors consistent with AD individuals include identification with fictional characters in child pornography and emotional loneliness and isolation." (A. Elliott, A. Beech, R. Mandeville-Norden, and E. Hayes, “Psychological Profiles of Internet Sexual Offenders: Comparisons With Contact Offenders,” 21 Sexual Abuse:
J. Res. & Treatment 76-92 (2009).)

Another guide for prosecutors for autistic males being prosecuted for sex crimes: http://johnmatthewfabian.com/wp-content ... fabian.pdf

Anecdotal evidence, too, has suggested a strong correlation between autistic males and sexual deviancy, including rape and pedophilia ideation (ever heard of the bronies?). Probably females too, but both rape and porn are less common problems among women in general, so it's not clear how that plays out. At any rate, in our current culture, deviant sexuality among females is not as great of a social concern as deviant sexuality among males, especially autistic males.

Specific evidence is hard to gather, but yeah, there's plenty of indirect evidence suggesting this as a strong possibility. Libel is only libel when directed against a specific person.

The evidence I presented would not be enough to convict autistic males as a whole of being more likely to engage in sexual criminal behavior than the general male population if the standard were similar to that in criminal law (beyond a reasonable doubt), but it would be enough strong circumstantial evidence to lead to a positive verdict in a civil case, such as the antitrust cases I've been working on a lot lately. In legalese, we would say that "by a preponderance of the evidence," sexual criminal behavior is more common among autistic males than among the general population. However, the evidence is insufficient to conclude that child porn or pedophilia are more common. It may well be, but further study is needed.

I think this article should have been written about sexual deviancy in autistic males more generally and then linked to some of the studies I posted. That would have made it less vulnerable to attack.

I've actually seen some, but they typically get removed by the moderators.

Most of this seems written for the defense, seeking sentence reduction, or relate to behavior in Group Homes or Closed Hospitals.

The one case cited was the 4chan kid, pedobear, and obsessive collecting.

Otherwise, ASD Aspergers, are considered less likely to turn to crime, because they have less contact with humans, and many of those contacts were bad. School bullies and such.

The Aspie Defense was used by Gary of England, for hacking Department of Defense computer networks. Somehow that got him access to a DOD workers Username and Password, and his search for UFO knowledge cover was not believed. Nor was his Asperger defense, but he got off on being An Englishman.

Other Aspie Defenses have failed, as lasty ditch efforts with no prior history, like the Craigs List killer who lured a young woman to his home with a for sale ad, then killed her, and disposed of her body. He had the murder weapon, her blood in his house, the body was found, and there was no other defense, so Aspergers comes from the Defense, and a jury did not believe them.

The main stories connecting Aspergers with crime, have been these Defense Claims, which no one believes.

The Beast story, and all mentions in your links, come back to the Pedobear Kid, who downloaded all the free porn on 4chan, which was posted by the FBI. As Entrapment has become a legal tool, posting kiddie porn, selling guns, stolen goods, have been used to entrap people in things they would have never done, without the prior acts of government. Fast and Furious, the Black church in Detroit, supplied donations of stolen goods, to sell, then the leader being killed in a raid.

As for the Pedobear Kid, he is guilty, of downloading kiddie porn, of being an Aspie, and lacking common sense. He was also supplied the evidence by a government sting, where they posted illegal material for illegal download. Hey kid! Could you hold my briefcase while I put on my raincoat? Thanks kid, you are under arrest for holding a briefcase full of drugs and guns.

So we have one case, of some dumb aspie being taken advantage of. No one else was involved, he had nothing to do with producing porn, or sex, and the might of the criminal justice system brought him down, for downloading what they supplied, which is illegal to possess, and illegal to post for download.

He also had a huge pile of anime with a sexual theme, which is legal in Japan where it is produced, and in America, where drawing are legal, but not in Australia where Simpsons porn is a crime.

4chan is perhaps the most trafficed site on the internet, the entire range of sexual behavior is on display. That My Little Pony exists, infers that it was produced by pony stud service.

On 4chan, the word Aspie, is usually connected to Aspie ret*d. They deserve it, because they never get over being newfags.

Still for all of the horror of the world we live in, it amounted to charges against Pedobear, and no one else. Poster Boy for Aspie ret*d Arrested! He used his own unmasked internet address, and saved it directly to his computer Hard Drive!

This is the story that is being used to connect all male aspies with kiddie porn, child rape, and murder.

I'm not discounting your personal opinions and experiences but the evidence you have put together here does not back up your claims.

The first set of guidelines has been produced by child psychologists and relates specifically to minors. The guidelines make some generalisations of ASD behaviours but the overall intent is to reduce an adverse proportion of convictions for those on the spectrum. In a culture of "zero tolerance" there are no allowances made for those who don't display typical behaviour, and the guidelines are specifically designed to reduce unfair convictions. For example:


The second link is in regard to institutionalised individuals only. From the abstract it is not possible to see whether the author has included considerations for other co-morbid conditions, if the subject had been a victim of sexual abuse themselves and the fact that sexual behavior is often modified by an institutional setting. I'm assuming the context of "deviancy" is your own as there is no mention of this in the abstract.

The third link is the title of a letter, no other information is available.

Fourth, Sadomasochism and hypersexuality are not indicators of paedophilia.

Fifth, these statistics may prove to be the example of inappropriately high conviction rates for males with ASD that both sets of guidelines you have linked to are attempting to address.

Six and Seven, again these seem to highlight that sexual behaviour in males with ASD may seem inappropriate to others and should receive special attention to help these individuals have a healthier approach to relationships. Posting an extract to include the term "identification with fictional characters in child pornography" is again not an indicator of paedophilia.

Eight, the last set of guidelines has the same aim as the first set that you posted. That those with ASD are unfairly persecuted for atypical behaviour.
Extracts from the conclusion:




Again I feel that your opinion of sexual deviancy may be limiting and the "My Little Pony" connection is ridiculous. I feel that the "evidence" you have provided does not back up your claims and you seem to have made the same flawed judgements and assumptions as those by Eustacia Cutler in the Daily Beast article.

In relation to posts on WP, I have seen 2 during the 5 months I have been on the site. One was allowed to run as it seemed like a constructive discussion about a members concerns regarding their own behaviour. The second was an obvious troll and deleted accordingly. It is reasonable to assume that some of the other posts seen here were deleted for the same reason. Consideration has to be made that it is also the moderators responsibility to protect other members from inappropriate encouragement and remove material that would damage the reputation of the site.

Well, "The Daily Beast" does not have that great of a reputation as a publication to begin with.

There will be people who will read this article and buy it. Then there will be people who will read it and see it for the smear piece that it is. All of that is outside of my control. Ms. Grandin's mother means nothing to me. I have my own life to live, and porn of any kind is not a part of it. And if I were to look at porn, I'd much rather look at men - not boys. I am living proof that this woman does not know what she is talking about.

Maybe we should retaliate by reminding her of what used to be popular beliefs on mothers of children with autism. We'll use her as anecdotal evidence in our article, and we'll claim that she is a sign that it is a massive "trend" that autism is caused by narcissistic parenting. Yeah, I wonder how she'll like that. (OK, I am just being vindictive now. I probably should stop.)