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02 Sep 2014, 1:45 pm

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Putin stole a Super Bowl ring

Did Putin really steal a Super Bowl ring? If so, please provide a link to the necessary news.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -bowl-ring
Just look at him,you can tell he wants to boost that crown.
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What about stealing the Super Bowl ring? Why is it so important? Did Putin steal the Super Bowl ring in person? Is the Super Bowl ring pictured with Putin? And if not, what is?



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02 Sep 2014, 2:11 pm

He asked to see a visiting American football players $25,000.00 ring, and then stuck it in his pocket and walked away. Just an odd quirk of his personality I guess. :roll:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -bowl-ring



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02 Sep 2014, 2:20 pm

FWIW Kraft later said that he gave it to Putin as a gift. This was around the time that Russia gave refuge to Edward Snowden so I figure it to be part of the propaganda battle, there was a major ratcheting up anti-Russian sentiment after that point.



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02 Sep 2014, 3:09 pm

nixiewp wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
nixiewp wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Putin stole a Super Bowl ring

Did Putin really steal a Super Bowl ring? If so, please provide a link to the necessary news.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -bowl-ring
Just look at him,you can tell he wants to boost that crown.
Image

What about stealing the Super Bowl ring? Why is it so important? Did Putin steal the Super Bowl ring in person? Is the Super Bowl ring pictured with Putin? And if not, what is?

It was important to the person he stole it from.You'd have to hide the good silver if he came to visit.Did you even read the link?And do you have a sense of humor?


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02 Sep 2014, 3:29 pm

@Jacoby, you have the gift thing backwards I believe. What Kraft said was that he explained its loss to friends for 8 years with the story that he had given Putin the ring as a gift. It was only in June last year that he came out saying it had actually been taken without permission.

It must have been a strange situation, and one I can understand him not wishing to publicize. One does not simply give away one's Superbowl ring. But when someone as unsavory and dangerous as Putin takes it... maybe it is healthier to keep it mum.

But you have the timing coinciding with Snowden's leaks correct. And that might have been a spur for Kraft to bring the truth out. Putin has been on the attack against the USA verbally for some years now (ie. 'Parasites'), but over the last year or so was when he added actions to his game, such as leaking conversations, harboring Snowden, etc. Anything he can find to embarrass the US.

So is Kraft's story true? I suspect so. Only if because Putin does in fact have the ring on display somewhere in the Kremlin I believe and one does not lightly make up such a lie about someone like Putin. Putin's version of course can not be trusted in anything. We have seen what a paragon of honesty he is.



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02 Sep 2014, 3:39 pm

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/17/nevermi ... n_partner/

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Now, apparently upon noticing the hullabaloo his statement on Thursday caused, Kraft rushed to correct himself.

?It?s a humorous, anecdotal story that Robert re-tells for laughs,? Stacey James, Kraft?s spokesman, told NFL.com on Sunday. ?He loves that his ring is at the Kremlin and, as he stated back in 2005, he continues to have great respect for Russia and the leadership of President Putin.?

?In particular, he credits President Putin for modernizing the Russian economy,? she added.



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03 Sep 2014, 10:48 pm

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/natos- ... 9df44c126d



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04 Sep 2014, 5:41 am

The Abbott government is set to send military trainers and advisers to help Ukraine counter Russia's recent aggression against its neighbour, effectively involving Australia in one of the world's most fraught international crises.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 0c28y.html



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04 Sep 2014, 6:50 am

Jacoby wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/17/nevermind_kraft_gifted_his_superbowl_ring_to_putin_partner/

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Now, apparently upon noticing the hullabaloo his statement on Thursday caused, Kraft rushed to correct himself.

?It?s a humorous, anecdotal story that Robert re-tells for laughs,? Stacey James, Kraft?s spokesman, told NFL.com on Sunday. ?He loves that his ring is at the Kremlin and, as he stated back in 2005, he continues to have great respect for Russia and the leadership of President Putin.?

?In particular, he credits President Putin for modernizing the Russian economy,? she added.

Interesting story and thanks for the correction.



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04 Sep 2014, 8:49 am

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The Abbott government is set to send military trainers and advisers to help Ukraine counter Russia's recent aggression against its neighbour, effectively involving Australia in one of the world's most fraught international crises.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 0c28y.html


Weird considering the Ukrainians screwed them over. They started an attack on the area of the plane crash when it was being investigated by international observers and they had to stop investigating/body retrieval.
The timing sucks too, they are helping just when there is a ceasefire. Now they're pissing off Russia for nothing.



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04 Sep 2014, 9:01 am

trollcatman wrote:
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The Abbott government is set to send military trainers and advisers to help Ukraine counter Russia's recent aggression against its neighbour, effectively involving Australia in one of the world's most fraught international crises.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 0c28y.html


Weird considering the Ukrainians screwed them over. They started an attack on the area of the plane crash when it was being investigated by international observers and they had to stop investigating/body retrieval.
The timing sucks too, they are helping just when there is a ceasefire. Now they're pissing off Russia for nothing.


Pissing off Russia is a good thing.

http://news.yahoo.com/germany-supply-uk ... 53837.html
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-sen ... -1.1990702



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06 Sep 2014, 3:19 pm

Its kind of amazing to me how the entire country is behind a leader so obviously leading them backwards into dictatorship and single party totalitarianism.