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Is EVERY scientific organization in the world part of a conspiracy/hoax?
YES! 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
NO! 86%  86%  [ 42 ]
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10 Dec 2014, 4:30 am

I'm also in favour of global warming.



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10 Dec 2014, 4:38 am

Imaging having two growing seasons a year for wheat like exists in central Mexico.



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10 Dec 2014, 4:41 am

Imagine being able to drill for oil in the Arctic.



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10 Dec 2014, 3:52 pm

eric76 wrote:
I'm strongly in favor of Global Warming.

Bring it on.

UMMM, so you like Droughts and Fires?
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/sc ... IixXjHF8mM
Blizzards?
“The atmosphere's water-holding capacity increases by about 4 percent for every 1° Fahrenheit (0.6° Celsius) rise in temperature. This effect is similar to the difference between a warm bathroom and a cold bathroom: the mirror fogs up more when the air is warmer.
Extreme precipitation is likely when a storm passes through a warmer atmosphere holding more water. In warmer months, it takes the form of torrential rainstorms; in winter,blizzards are more likely.”


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10 Dec 2014, 3:58 pm

Humanaut wrote:
The satellite data is from RSS. It's real. No conspiracy. Global cooling is here, now.

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Please stop making stuff up! UMMM so satellites confirm global cooling? LOL UMM where do you think NASA, NOAA gets most of its data from? So NOAA and NASA are part of the conspiracy?
http://climate.nasa.gov/
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2 ... nge-action
Where do you get your nonsense from?
Oh yeah, your graph came from climate depot. Climate depot was created by Marc Morano;
“He began his career working for Rush Limbaugh from 1992 to 1996, during which time he was known as "Limbaugh's man in Washington… At the end of 2012 Media Matters for America named Morano the "Climate Change Misinformer of the Year."[11] The German magazine Zeit has described him as a "PR manager" and "climate warrior", and called his career "a lesson in the art of lying".
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10 Dec 2014, 5:29 pm

Considering that ,
“The first ten months of 2014 were the warmest such period on record.”
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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/
And before that,
“Currently, the warmest year on record is 2010,”
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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2013/13
Hmm, I wonder why Morano’s graph does not show that.
2005, 2010 and 2014 are hotter than 1998. I imagine that he took a legitimate graph that showed global warming and manipulated it to not show global warming. Just like you did!
Satellites?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... sheet.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/before-a ... ing-2014-5
http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/4/


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10 Dec 2014, 5:38 pm

Mark Morano and Rush Limbaugh didn't make the graph. The Secret Intelligence Service did, but they didn't gather the data. The RSS did, but they didn't pull it out of a hat. They got it from the satellites. Do you believe space aliens are tampering with the satellites?



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10 Dec 2014, 5:43 pm

Umm no, I said that the graph was manipulated, just like you manipulated graphs.


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10 Dec 2014, 5:47 pm

How do you explain the fact that 2005, 2010 and 2014 are hotter than 1998 and yet on the graph they are cooler? It could be that what Morono did was take a graph about some other temperatures that have nothing to do with the earth's temperatures.
The graph may be accurate but it has nothing to do with global temperatures.


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10 Dec 2014, 5:55 pm

You can side with Limbaugh and his puppet Moron. I however, will side with NOAA, NASA, American Meterological Society... I trust their data. Limbaugh and Moron have a history of lying.


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10 Dec 2014, 6:19 pm

“In fact, the planet as a whole has warmed since 1998, sometimes even in the years when surface temperatures have fallen”
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Perhaps the way Morano falsified the data was by taking it out of context. Using temps ( legitimately recorded for specific layers or areas) and implying that they are global temps.
PS; That article was from 2008. Since then 2010 and 2014 have been hotter.
* WHY DONT LINKS WORK AT WRONG PLANET??????
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... ths-global

-warming-stopped-in-1998.html#.VIjTSzHF8mM
Cut and paste the above as one site!! !


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10 Dec 2014, 6:38 pm

wittgenstein wrote:
Perhaps the way Morano falsified the data was by taking it out of context.

Why would he do that?



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11 Dec 2014, 12:20 pm

Because he wants to show that global warming does not exist ( he is a puppet of the petro-chemical industry). Since there is NO evidence that the world is cooling or even staying the same temperature *, he has to manufacture "evidence" .
* The evidence is clear and unequivocal ( as acknowledged by EVERY scientific organization in the world) that the world is warming.
Why does Limbaugh and Moron lie? I think the answer is obvious. They have no facts on their side so they have to lie and falsify data.


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11 Dec 2014, 1:34 pm

Anyone else involved in addition to Rush Limbaugh, Morano, and the petrochemical industry?



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12 Dec 2014, 12:21 pm

Umm. Of course, there are many people that are pro-petro-chemical industry.* The Koch brothers for example ( that will lose money if people believe the truth about global warming) , have donated millions to propaganda firms whose only job is to discredit science.
The fact remains that ( as I have proven by giving the primary source for the data NOAA) 2014,2010 and 2005 were hotter than 1998. However, the graph you gave was obviously manipulated because it erroneously portrayed 2014,2010 and 2005 as cooler.
I was being kind when I suggested that Moron might have been taking data from a single layer of the atmosphere. However, even if it was ignorance rather than lying that made him misrepresent the data as global temperatures, that means that he is a fool rather then a criminal.
* remember that the petro-chemical industry ( Exxon, Shell etc) have billions of dollars of influence.


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12 Dec 2014, 2:23 pm

Anyone else involved in this conspiracy?