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15 Sep 2015, 2:23 am

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It's a combination of the fallout of Arab Spring (surprise surprise, anarchy doesn't work) and the Iraq war.


You can hardly call tyrannical regimes "anarchist"...


I'm not talking about the tyrannical regimes, I'm talking about what happens once they get overthrown. The country goes into anarchy, and because anarchy DOESN'T WORK, a new force fills the void. Notice they weren't all fleeing before the tyrannical regimes were overthrown.


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15 Sep 2015, 2:26 am

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Free money in Germany and Sweden.

Islam has been trying to invade Europe for a thousand years.

A mentally weak, socially destroyed, Europe has left the door open to being overrun.

Islam is as hard core a desert religion as it ever was. Any land they settle becomes part of Islam.

Islamic lands have there own law, and enforce religion.

Convert, pay the tax, or die.

Nothing has changed.

With this current crop of Islamists, I don't think anything short of conversion would satisfy them. :x


Enough with the ignorant Islamophobia. Traditionally, Muslims did not force anyone to convert, they just taxed non-Muslims. Recently Islam has taken a turn for the worst, but we can also look at recent trends to see what's going to happen to the current immigrants: they aren't going to overrun the country, they will be assimilated in a generation or two. The children of immigrants in the west tend to be very moderate.


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15 Sep 2015, 2:28 am

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Okay, I'm sorry. I should have used the word almost before always.

India may have more Muslims than Pakistan, but that's like saying, ooh, Britain has more Catholics than Vatican City.


You don't know what you are talking about.


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15 Sep 2015, 2:33 am

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Basically, western nations have destabilised the region in order to better control the oil market leading to a huge rich/poor divide and a power vacuum that has been filled by various insurgent groups. These people are fleeing from the hell that our governments have created.


I think that the oil and gas companies would rather see a stable government that helps protect their assets and access to the oil and gas.

The result isn't that western countries destabilize the region but they try to help prop up whatever leadership is friendly to them.



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15 Sep 2015, 8:17 am

eric76 wrote:
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Basically, western nations have destabilised the region in order to better control the oil market leading to a huge rich/poor divide and a power vacuum that has been filled by various insurgent groups. These people are fleeing from the hell that our governments have created.


I think that the oil and gas companies would rather see a stable government that helps protect their assets and access to the oil and gas.

The result isn't that western countries destabilize the region but they try to help prop up whatever leadership is friendly to them.

Yet lately we have been destabilizing countries. We did it in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. We've caused change in others both recently and previously, such as in Iran with the Shaw.



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23 Sep 2015, 6:13 am

The disruption of cultures pitting one faction against another has also been played in Europe and America.

Who benefits?

Mexicans flooding into the USA, Middle East and Africa into Europe, and the defining issue of Obama's term in office was Homosexual Rights.

National Health Care, was not debated or voted on, it was passed unread and in secret becoming law.

Now more International Trade Agreements, also secret agreements. Homeland Security, NSA Spying, Patriot Act, all without the knowledge or consent of the people.

From Free People to slaves of the government is only one backroom meeting away.

We do still have the vote, Trump has shown that anyone is more popular than Congress.

Each generation must defend Liberty. There are those we should be defending from.



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12 Jan 2016, 5:30 pm

An amusing tweet I randomly came across:

"Open Borders Libertarianism might work if the world was filled with 7 Billion high-functioning Aspies. But it's not, so it won't."

https://twitter.com/JohnRiversToo/statu ... 4085689344


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