Non-transgender Men Being Allowed In Women's Bathroom!

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I think you'll be more likely to be harassed now, as Target is shining a big proverbial spotlight on their potties.

There isn't any excuse for behavior like this.But you could have done something.Such as tell him to get the hell away from the door and report him.You had nothing to be ashamed of,he did.More people should speak up about this type of behavior,otherwise the peeper just gets to go on peeping on people.Men can also be preyed upon by peepers,so it's an issue for everyone.Not just women.
There are lots of other way people can peep without being in a bathroom,hidden cameras in dressing rooms,even a mirror on the toe of a shoe so they can see up your skirt.A janitor could put a "urine luck"camera in the bathroom.I don't doubt there are cameras for shoes now.Theres no way to be totally safe from this.Just be aware of what's going on around you and report suspicious activities.Don't live your live in fear that someone might get a peep of your coochie.

Yeah, but potties everywhere are having a big spotlight shown on them. In Target's case, I know it's a friendly spotlight.

Besides, I've spent my entire life being harassed in public restrooms. At this point, I'm inclined to just tell people who are "uncomfortable" with masculine-appearing humans in the public johns to *&%$ themselves.

I don't like politics and I really feel this is a lose lose situation, you allow it and you put some some women and children in danger cause whats to stop a predator from using the restroom as a transgender person? You don't allow it and then you are clearly discriminating against transgender people.

I find it kinda humorous this is even a debate because clearly ya'll have screwed the pooch and have created too many laws when some things should be left to common sense and maybe awareness of these issues.

Still I'll just leave this here and show myself the door. Most women don't like this it would seem,

Predatory men have been walking into women's toilets without a care in the world since the conception of "public toilets", that is partly the reason why women have had to go out in groups when they have to go to the toilet. But now transgender women are able to use some toilets and everyone now needs a scapegoat..

People should just go to the bathroom that causes the least trouble usually meaning the sex they look the most like, they don't check genitalia at the door so it shouldn't be an issue most of the time. The restroom should be utilitarian, not a political statement.

...except that is an outright lie.

Still I'll just leave this here and show myself the door. Most women don't like this it would seem[/quote]

Also a lie, as that video (and others by joey salad) have been debunked.

http://www.transadvocate.com/debunked-joeysalads-transgender-bathroom-hoax_n_15800.htm



Would you do this if someone was gay? Black | Latina | Asian? People are born transgender. It's not a moral choice. Treating them like this is wrong.


Please. Stop. These threads, these posts are cruel and are hurting people.

Okay well I didn't mean any harm though. I meant that that is what the argument is, not that I agree or disagree with it. The point of my post was to remain neutral. As for Joey Salads, that is just straight up funny as hell and I won't apologize for that, surely transgender people have a sense of humor no?


Also no I wouldn't have this be an issue if someone was black or gay. Hell I said my opinion, you guys have created too many laws regarding sexuality and its back fired. This would not have been an issue if it was never brought up, use common sense and don't discriminate against people and you won't need to have a law like this made.

That is a good point actually and goes more into why we as a society should have never gotten to this point.

So that they don't have to be afraid that someone is going to hate on them or kick them out of the bathroom (or both at once, more likely). Or, at least, that they know that if something like that happens, they can stand up for themselves and actually get support from people in authority rather than being further mistreated.....that they will be protected just like other women would be.



If cisgendered men are being allowed in the women's restroom, then it is presumably because you can't tell for sure what a person's gender identity is from how they dress. It's even harder to enforce bathroom segregation based on gender identity than it is to enforce bathroom segregation based on what genitals people have.

Again, I think the real problem here is that store staff/managers (all people in charge, whatever their titles/roles) are not using critical thinking skills. If some person is standing around in a bathroom just staring at people, that's sketchy no matter what gender they are (or appear to be), and the person in question should be informed of the complaint about them and spoken to in an attempt to find out what's going on.



If you are saying that you think transwomen are men, well, that saddens me.

Gender identity is a part of biological gender just as much as genitals (or sex chromosomes, or gonads, or hormonal status, or secondary sex characteristics) -- and I'd say it's more important, because a person's brain basically trumps everything else when it comes to our lives and behavior and social functioning and both physical and mental sense of self.

Things don't always line up perfectly in sexual differentiation (the masculinization or feminization of sexually dimorphic parts of the body, including the brain) and transpeople are one example of the in-person variation that can occur in this process.

Then are you saying XFilesGeek should use the men's room then, because she is tall, short-haired, and dresses androgynously?

How do you not realize how insulting that is?



That's really rude, Dox47. Comparing conservatives to autistic people is an insult to autistic people.

What?! Brain gender? This is the fault in the policy. If you all think I'm just going to freely go to the bathroom or change in the dressing room with an actual MAN standing right there watching, that's BS. This is the reason I hope Target goes bankrupt.

Well you are the one saying she looks like a man so perhaps you should watch your own insults, I've never seen XFG and just because someone is tall and butch doesn't mean they look like a man or identify as one. I'm sure she's beautiful inside and out.

If you can grow a beard and have stubble then you probably should use the men's bathroom, if you're a balding 6'4" 280lbs with Navy tattoos(AND HAVE A PENIS) then you probably should use the men's bathroom. It's maybe not fair but I guess this is the one aspect in life that dainty short genetic males come out ahead, too bad I didn't want to be a woman.

I find your posting style pretty funny, you try to twist and put words in people's mouth of almost every post you reply too.

I'm not putting any words in anyone's mouth, I'm asking questions. Why are you afraid of a question?

The point I'm trying to make, is that with this sort of "gender-policing" there's a lot of potential for cis people (who may be somewhat non-conforming) to be caught in the crossfire.

Is that what you're doing now?

I really don't think it is a big issue, this is honestly something that is a very minor thing effecting a tiny fraction of the population so I do not think it really needs legislating. I think the private business can make their own policies, I have no issue with what Target is doing and I wouldn't care if they went the other way either. I think the NC law is stupid because it is pointless but then again the federal government thinks they can stick their nose into the matter so maybe it isn't. I kind think an informal 'don't ask, don't tell' policy is the best way to go, if nobody knows then it isn't a problem. Do your business in the bathroom then get out, I don't make any habit of hanging out in public restrooms and in fact do everything I can to avoid them.

My position is that new buildings should probably be more accommodating of everyone with single use and family restrooms, that would take care of everybody and make this a non-issue. Th

Guess what men? That's right, conservative activists!

They should just make all the bathrooms unisex so I don't have to keep hearing about it. I could give a crap if its a man, woman or any other gender identity in the stall next to me in the public bathroom...regardless you're still peeing/pooping in the same room with strangers.