Chelsea Manning goes on hunger strike in prison

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16 Sep 2016, 12:44 pm

the sin of sodom was being rich and not caring for the poor.

homosexuality and being trans ARE NOT paraphilias. homosexuality is normal and pre-op trans folks have gender dysphoria, not a paraphilia. a foot fetish is a paraphilia. cross-dressing may or may not be a paraphilia. it would be a paraphilia if the person found wearing the clothes to be sexually arousing. consult the DSM. you might learn something.



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16 Sep 2016, 1:04 pm

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consult the DSM. you might learn something.


These desk references have sections on abstract thinking.

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the sin of sodom was being rich and not caring for the poor.


I read an apocryphal text, in which someone is stricken, in the head, and surreptitiously charged for the medical service of bloodletting.

In the kjv--
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange (heteros) flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Aren't you straining at gnats, assuming that my interpretations oftentimes coordinate with those in the gay Bible?

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gender dysphoria, not a paraphilia. a foot fetish is a paraphilia.

People who cut off the healthy foot have a kind of dysphoria, and there are amputation fetishists. Does consensus make this normal and appropriate, perhaps on the Thanksgiving table?

I have mainly said that we should respect the integrity of the body, and of social venues. I am judgmental in regards to masochism, and willful self-harm, otherwise, make it none of my business.

It's apparently not enough, unless I am praising you and conceding useful resources, like some sort of tribute.

The church was a good example, because the traditionalists had to give up their name and historical buildings. The military is also an apt comparison.

It's as though nothing is appropriate besides unconditional surrender and banishment.



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16 Sep 2016, 1:08 pm

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What you describe is not an "amputation fetish", it's called apotemnophilia and it's a neurological disorder.

Long story short, you don't understand the terms you're using.


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16 Sep 2016, 1:12 pm

images.google -> amputee porn

The apotemnophiliac and niche pornographer are a perfect match, some might say.

Now, I know how the Ugandans felt. :oops:



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16 Sep 2016, 1:14 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
images.google -> amputee porn

Having an "amputee fetish" means you're sexually attracted to people missing limbs, people actually wanting to cut off a limb is a different issue, ergo apotemnophilia

You don't understand the difference between sexual fetishes, sexual orientation and neurological disorders.
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16 Sep 2016, 1:16 pm

Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it.
- Ezekiel 16:49-50 (ESV)



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16 Sep 2016, 1:22 pm

I am positing a hypothetical example, in which one party wants to compromise himself, and the other finds that attractive.


It's an example of sadomasochism.

The effeminate also wants to compromise himself, and the butch finds that attractive.

You're basically deconstructing a reproductive relationship, down to pure dominance and submission, and applying that to an unnatural situation, even forcibly dominating the culture, in an act of unwillful participation.

Many times, it does not even serve the function of masturbation, like the graphic material shown in the Ugandan Church, in a viral, internet sensation.



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16 Sep 2016, 1:26 pm

cathylynn wrote:
Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it.
- Ezekiel 16:49-50 (ESV)


:| I acknowledged that they were haughty, and the singular, deciding abomination was not same-sex attraction.

For those not familiar with the Chuck Missler / Steve Quayle interpretation of Gen 6, I am saying that human beings were not supposed to have sex with angels, like in the story of Sodom.

Some of our most common tropes are nothing more than traditions of men, for instance, the lighting of candles, ringing of bells, and Christmas trees.

You're still not only being disrespectful of local custom, but putting people out -- literally. They have to get a new a building, or lose their business. You're allowed to have your own things, without doing that.

Even completely disregarding the sentimental parts of this discussion, there are fair observations to be made on objective morality, when being coercive, severing healthy appendages, and engaging in other, medically-unfeasible acts.



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16 Sep 2016, 7:58 pm

...Many people in prison committed illegal , b ut not " inhumane " acts , and others not in prison did as bad or worse but had the influence/money/whatever to get out ! Try the Phil Ochs song " There But For Fortune "...






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prisons degenerate society and are inhumane


So were the actions of the people in prison,

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I don't think you really understand how transgener works...its not people who just wake up one morning and decide they want to be the opposite gender. These people tend to have lived a life feeling very uncomfortable in their own skin...also there are a number of babies born that don't have a 'normal' sex but are assigned one but then once puberty hits it turns out they assigned them the wrong one. Its not really about being the gender they 'want'.


I admit I am ignorant on some of this topic, I have never really been around transgender people. Gay people yes, transgender not so much. I am not bothered by them and I made an effort to not offend anyone with this thread but at the very least you can see how I came to the OP.

You know I am more then likely wrong and will look like an idiot but when I read your post I felt an odd parallel between autistic and transgender people. I for one have never felt comfortable in my own skin, socially or otherwise so maybe I do understand on that front.


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18 Sep 2016, 1:03 pm

The institution of prison is inherently damaging.



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19 Sep 2016, 4:04 pm

I would like to say that I hate this thread and I hate that I made this thread and I hate everything about this thread,

I am not a bigot and I don't appreciate bigots taken my legit question and being bigots basically.

Honestly I am totally okay if a mod nukes this thread to hell.

It is not my intention to get the moderator thread blowing up because people who are offended.

Forgive me for trying to learn more about an controversial topic that I don't know a lot about.



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19 Sep 2016, 5:29 pm

...I am inclined to think that Chelsea did a Pretty Good Thing , akin to Daniel Ellsberg or those people (I forget the detaills) who , in Pencyllvania around 1971?? IIRC broke into FBI files and exposed bad stuff which they were doing ! !! !! !! !! :) Sort of laid my scabbard down THERE 8O :wink: !


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