Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Crimea has the right to self determination, they are Russian and it is their right to join the Russian Federation. Ukraine's government came to power via a violent illegal coup and the east/west divide in Ukraine is so extreme that the east and Crimea were both 90% in favor of Yanukovych, he was their president. The Maidan government was radically anti-Russian and among the first things was to move against Russian language speakers which is half the country, once the coup happened they had no obligation of sticking around.
So, as far as self-determination goes, would you be so supportive if the Latino population of the American southwest became so large a majority that they decided to go back to Mexico?
Perhaps a reason it is important to stop the tide of illegal immigrants from Mexico, it's not an uncommon belief that Mexico owns the American Southwest at all. I feel birthright citizenship needs to be looked at, just being born on this soil should not be enough if you're parents are not here legally. To be a natural born citizen I think you should have a parent who is an American citizen or at least permanent resident.
Generally speaking tho, yes I support the right of self-determination so if the scenario you describe came to pass then while I may oppose that secession there wouldn't be much that you could do to stop it. The good thing is tho, I don't think too many Mexican Americans or even illegals want this to be Mexico or else they wouldn't of left in the first place.
As for the vote in Crimea, I'd say it was fair enough to say that was the opinion of the majority of the people who live there. Go look up the numbers that Yanukovych won in Crimea, I think it might of been even more than what the referendum passed by. Ukraine is not really one country, western Ukraine is Galicia and probably closer to Poland than it is to the east of the country which is much much closer to Russia. Crimea being part of Ukraine at all was pretty much an accident, they have long wanted to leave Ukraine so what is hard to believe about the vote considering that the alternative was a violent anti-Russian illegal coup in Kiev. Crimea is Russian, there are no Ukrainians there. The US/EU/Soros thought they could throw Russia out of the Black Sea all together, Ukraine is one the foreign policy establishment's "global pivot points" and think that the only way they can stop Russia from regaining it's footing as global power is by pushing them out.
Yes, it's true, Khrushchev had given the Crimea over to his native Ukraine. That said, despite the fact that there are very likely more Russians living there than Ukrainians, the fact remains, I can fully understand why Ukraine would be upset over having part of their country taken away.
Incidentally, my dad's people had been Germans largely from the Kurpfalz/Kraichgau region of what is today the German state of Baden-Wurttemberg, who had been invited by the Russian Czar to settle there during the Napoleonic period, and produce grain for the Russian Empire. Essentially, they were the same as the Palatine Germans who had become the Pennsylvania Dutch. These Black Sea Germans, including my people, ended up immigrating to America when the Russian government went back on their promises of political autonomy in the mid and late 19th century. A great many of those Russians living in Crimea today are the descendants of people who Stalin had resettled the area with after the Black Sea Germans had been largely deported to Siberia as punishment for fear that they might collaborate with the Nazis... even though a great many Black Sea Germans had been getting it from both ends by the communists and the Nazis. As there are still descendants of Black Sea Germans in Russia today, though they have since been losing their ethnic distinction since WWII, I'd like to know who they think should get Crimea.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
14 Nov 2016, 5:07 pm
