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Then God bless those homeless men!

Meanwhile:

Nearly seven million migrants are 'waiting to cross into Europe': Leaked report warns of new crisis but Brussels insists the situation is under control

More than six million asylum seekers are waiting to cross into Europe, a leaked intelligence report warns.

There has been a huge increase in the number of migrants hoping to reach EU countries, it says – contradicting claims from Brussels that the situation is under control.

The confidential report, leaked to German newspaper Bild, claims 6.6 million migrants are waiting in countries around the Mediterranean sea to cross into Europe, including 2.5 million in war-torn North Africa.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... urope.html

Which has nothing to do with the situation in the UK
Every single terror attack in the UK has involved British citizens who were radicalised through the internet

In the England I know, people have found lots of positive ways to spend their energy and help Manchester recover.

The bombmaker is still at large!

This explosion took place about ten miles down the road from where I live.

A couple of reminiscences do not fill me with enormous confidence in the British approach to 'security'.

During one period in the 1970s, when the Irish Republican Army (IRA) was conducting a bombing campaign which targeted public buildings in mainland UK cities, I was heading for the exit of Manchester Central Reference Library. A security officer stopped me and asked me to open my bag. As I did so, I asked her "Am I supposed to be taking a bomb into this building or out of it?" She replied "We're not bothered about bombs, just checking you're not stealing any books from here".

In the late 1990s I had to go through a security checkpoint before entering the Foreign Office, a government building in Whitehall close to both the Houses of Parliament and Downing Street. When asked about the purpose of my visit, I told the security person (truthfully) that I was meeting someone who worked there. He didn't ask me who that was, or search my bag, just said "Okay" and let me through.....

One would like to think that things will have been tightened up a bit in the current circumstances, but I wouldn't bank on it, and pretty much nothing surprises me these days in this country.

Don't give them ideas about a Great Interest Wall.

It may sound a lot, and it is, but that's less that 1% of the Europe population.

That 1% perspective is what most critics of refugee immigration are missing. All they hear is refugees by the millions, but not how that number compares with native European populations.

It's also the Daily Mail reporting it, so almost certainly not true anyway.

opportunity knocks...

Millions of people are still millions of people regardless of the native population. It will never end, not until every bit of wealth & culture is stripped from Europe and even immigrants don't want to go there. The are 7 billion people on this planet and probably a couple billion would be very happy moving to rich 1st world countries with generous welfare systems but it can't be, with open borders all human progress and diversity will be erased. People need to stay in their own countries and make them better instead of abandoning ship to live on someone else's dime. These are not refugees, they are not fleeing war and are mostly economic migrants not from Syria. Also just because you take in someone as a guest doesn't mean you should be obligated to them forever, that's the problem with helping people since it never ends. How many of these "refugees" will be returning to their country's once the war is over?

I seem to remember how millions of people - sometimes fleeing war, sometimes looking for a brighter economic future - immigrated to America, changing it forever, and for the better. The nations of modern Europe and elsewhere do not go back to time immemorial, and in fact, neither do most modern ethnicities. Rather, they are themselves the product of immigrations and intermarriages that had been going on since prehistoric times.

Millions of people never came to the US in that short of a time, millions of people never came to the US who weren't expected and straight up forced to integrate/give up their culture. Americans have rights too, we are not slaves to the world and we do not owe anybody anything. The QoL in America matters, being a privileged person from a lily white corner of the country you might not understand this but importing millions of unskilled uneducated culturally hostile foreigners is not a recipe for peace on the streets and mutual benefit. The US does not need anymore poor laborers or generational welfare recipients, we need to take care of our own people. Nothing is stopping you from giving all that you have but I won't.

Lets do a simple analysis of these assertions;

On this point most of us living here in the wealthy west can agree that open borders would mean an end to first world living standards. However no reasonable government will go down this path so lets not get carried away...


This is a spurious assertion, progress will continue and there are enough racists in the world who want to cling to their own kind



Now that you get your foot in the door you want to sell the right wing mantra which is "lets close our borders", not a problem at the turn of the 20th century when tired huddled masses of Europeans were allowed in their millions (yes it was millions) but now that the tired huddled masses are dark skinned then OMG it's a threat to progress! (because only us white folks of capable of progress) and it's a threat to diversity (we don't "darkies" marrying our kids) and finally they should stay in their own countries (since apartheid was outlawed in the 1960s we don't want them here)

Yes Jacoby, I can decipher your code

I don't subscribe to this whiggish idea that human progress and enlightenment is this natural or linear thing, like most people you are ignorant of history. Apparently the whole era of the industrial revolution culminating in two world wars weren't turbulent, yeah we survived but I don't think thats what you're going far with you stupid race baiting. You're a religious fanatic, an ideologue, you have to be brainwashed by political correctness at this point to not see the issues with open borders "multiculturalism." By your own admission, it means the surrendering of 1st world living standards which I'm guessing you don't have a problem with but just because you're poor and miserable doesn't mean everyone else should be. Take your ridiculous virtue signaling and moralizing elsewhere, SJWs are stupider "secular" evangelicals.

Open borders is suicide, it will destroy western civilization. Collapsing living standards and sectarian strife shouldn't be things you aspire for. I live in this country on this earthly realm, do you want things to get better here or do your apocalyptic views mean taking a vow of poverty?