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24 Sep 2017, 3:43 pm

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Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the vast majority of the protesters are black. It only stands to reason that those are the ones Trump is criticizing.

If I hate haggis does that mean I hate Scottish people? If I hate gospel music does that mean I hate people of faith? You can disagree with something or not like something purely because you don't like that thing, not because you hate the majority demographic involved in that thing.



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24 Sep 2017, 4:06 pm

I think both Trump and the football players are doing a disservice to each other.

This is going to extend to other sports.

And it'll make both sides look foolish.

A lose-lose all the way.



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24 Sep 2017, 5:18 pm

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Do some hill folk around there refer to cougars as painters?
Some in Appalachia do .

I know you were talking to somebody else----but, I wanted to chime-in, on this one.....

YES!! As you probably already know, my family's in / from Appalachia, as well, and I've heard SEVERAL people call cougars, "Painters" (I figured it was, like, "language decay", or whatever, for "Panther")----also, I've heard them called "Catamounts" (again, I figured it meant, like, "Cat of the mountain", or whatever).

I've heard all KINDS of stories about cougars, in them thar heels----everything from being killed, because they threatened (and/or killed) the livestock on my family's farms, to protecting an infant human!! I don't know if any of those stories are TRUE----but, they always made for GREAT entertainment, at my grandfather's knee!!

One of my elders told wolf stories.They raised sheep in the Grand Prairie region here and wolves constantly carried them off.Also tornado stories.One family would dress in their Sunday finest and lay down in their beds every bad storm.So the relatives wouldn't have to dress them for the funeral.A tornado also picked up a herd of cattle,lifted them over a fence and set them down in a neighbor's adjoining field unharmed.I just loved hearing those stories.

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There were also a lot of wolf stories which no doubt contibuted to their demise in the east.

Wow, I find that really interesting that both y'all mentioned "wolf stories", and I don't remember hearing ANYTHING about wolves----but, I DO remember coyote stories. I used to LOVE anything about coyotes, cuz, to me, they were very mysterious. I used to keep my eyes peeled for them----I'd often seen them on the ridge behind my aunt's farm; and also, hear them "talking" (howling/barking) to each other, at night, and it was always a comforting sound, to me.

@Misslizard: Your story about the family dressing in their Sunday-go-to-meetin' clothes, reminded me of that scene in "Titanic", when that elderly couple did the same thing.





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24 Sep 2017, 5:20 pm

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Has Trump done anything he promised to do prior the US election? what positive things has he done for the country?

Welp, I'll not be taking that bait, t'day----but, why should YOU care?

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Withdrawal from the TPP and Paris accord is not universally seen as a positive step for the US and have been criticised by Australia's conservative government.

So? Who CARES? You seem to be forgetting that one of thee main reasons, Mr. Trump became president, was because of his MAGA philosopy----NOT, make the WORLD, great again!!




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24 Sep 2017, 5:22 pm

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Who gives a s**t why their not standing. Point is, their not standing with the team or our nation. It's simply disrespectful to a nation... There is better ways to protest, without being controversial. Stand with your team, stand with your nation and maybe we will stand for your cause.

I AGREE!!

Even though "my" beloved Ravens lost (read: "were slaughtered") t'day (don't ask me why they were in friggin' London LOL), I was VERY proud to see them and the Jax Jags standing and locking arms (most of 'em), as the anthem, played. IMO, their message was "We are united in standing-UP for our country"----I 'spect it'll be on the national news t'night----and, IMO, THAT'S the way people get their message, across; by being UNITED (whereas, "kneeing" is spurring divisiveness, IMO)! !





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24 Sep 2017, 5:22 pm

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Its his denial of it in his own country

Where have I denied this in Australia? I agree with your sources and am not stopping anybody from posting sources/links and giving constructive feedback on Australia but this thread was created about Trump's usual "one sided" approach to anything to do with race. Feel free to start a thread (I know nobody will because Australia is insignificant in international affairs whereas your country is "numero uno" on the global stage)

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.and constantly vilifying us.

What is this with "us" does everyone cranky about my posts think they are tethered to Trump or the far right?



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24 Sep 2017, 5:24 pm

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Do some hill folk around there refer to cougars as painters?
Some in Appalachia do .

I know you were talking to somebody else----but, I wanted to chime-in, on this one.....

Anything posted on the open forum is up for grabs.

Yeah, I figured you'd feel that way----but, there's always the chance some brain-dead somebody would don a cape, and come to your rescue (you know - like, the ones who would normally call you a troll), just so they could look like "WOO-HOO----here's me being WONDERFUL, again!!". LOL




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24 Sep 2017, 5:24 pm

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So? Who CARES? You seem to be forgetting that one of thee main reasons, Mr. Trump became president, was because of his MAGA philosopy----NOT, make the WORLD, great again!!


Mornin Campin Cat, it's a pity he didn't want America to be "smart again"



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24 Sep 2017, 5:25 pm

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Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act

I like this idea, right here----and, I read the link:

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(b) To the extent permitted by law, the Office shall:

(i) advise and assist the Secretary in using, as appropriate, all available authorities to discipline or terminate any VA manager or employee who has violated the public's trust and failed to carry out his or her duties on behalf of veterans, and to recruit, reward, and retain high-performing employees;

(ii) identify statutory barriers to the Secretary's authority to discipline or terminate any employee who has jeopardized the health, safety, or well-being of a veteran, and to recruit, reward, and retain high‑performing employees; and report such barriers to the Secretary for consideration as to the need for legislative changes;

(iii) work closely with relevant VA components to ensure swift and effective resolution of veterans' complaints of wrongdoing at the VA;

I don't wanna derail this thread, but I could tell somebody some stories that'd make their HAIR stand on-end; suffice it to say that there's at least 6 people, that I know-of, who should lose their job at the VA (ALL are Voc Rehab counselors - 1 of 'em [male] hit on me; then, when I requested another counselor, SHE hit on me!! LOL I kid you not!!).




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24 Sep 2017, 5:28 pm

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Looks like Le Bron James, Kobe Bryant and Steph Curry have all condemned the comments by POTUS against the NFL players. All apparently boycotting invites to the whitehouse...
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/09/24/04/ ... aying-what

Trump criticising people for not standing means he is racist just because some of those people were black...so those players refusing to go to the Whitehouse makes *them* racist because Trump is white? That's how it works, right? Or does the logic only apply when it meets your agenda?

EXACTLY!!




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24 Sep 2017, 5:29 pm

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Looks like Le Bron James, Kobe Bryant and Steph Curry have all condemned the comments by POTUS against the NFL players. All apparently boycotting invites to the whitehouse...
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/09/24/04/ ... aying-what

Trump criticising people for not standing means he is racist just because some of those people were black...so those players refusing to go to the Whitehouse makes *them* racist because Trump is white? That's how it works, right? Or does the logic only apply when it meets your agenda?

EXACTLY!!

You forgot to underline



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24 Sep 2017, 5:29 pm

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I think premise is wrong. Kaepernick had a 125 million dollar contract. However it wasn't working out, he wanted to be traded. They wouldn't trade him; they made him "second string". So, he did this to make them angry, so they would trade him. This stunt is an insult to black people. He is using their pain for his own purposes.

I AGREE!! People like this, do stuff like this, all-the-time----acting like "I am here, for YOU", when, all-the-while, they have a SELFISH ulterior motive.





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24 Sep 2017, 5:34 pm

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Perhaps you haven't noticed, but the vast majority of the protesters are black. It only stands to reason that those are the ones Trump is criticizing.

Really? That's the farthest your reach, at reasoning?







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24 Sep 2017, 5:35 pm

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I think Cyberdad gives the US props where we deserve it.

Well thanks for your support...I guess I'm just waiting for the mods to close this thread down as it's triggered "unhappy chappies"



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24 Sep 2017, 6:03 pm

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Feel free to start a thread (I know nobody will because Australia is insignificant...)

No----it's because anybody worth their salt, in THIS country, minds their own business!!

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...does everyone cranky about my posts think they are tethered to Trump or the far right?

It's not about being "tethered" to President Trump----or, at least, that's not ALL of what it's about. It's about being tethered, to our COUNTRY, and defending it, no matter WHAT!!




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24 Sep 2017, 6:07 pm

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So? Who CARES? You seem to be forgetting that one of thee main reasons, Mr. Trump became president, was because of his MAGA philosopy----NOT, make the WORLD, great again!!

Mornin Campin Cat, it's a pity he didn't want America to be "smart again"

We don't need to be "smart again", cuz we never QUIT being smart (generally speaking)! ! Just because the person who YOU thought should get into OUR office, DIDN'T, doesn't mean we're not smart----it just means "we" didn't agree with YOU (an Australian - so, it doesn't matter)! !




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