Elizabeth Warren Running for President in 2020

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09 Jan 2019, 12:13 pm

How many of you defending the candidate would think its a minor thing if she said she is autistic because a psychologist once told her she had one autistic trait?


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09 Jan 2019, 3:36 pm

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And the point is...?

She's was a POC ....

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It's what that periodical stated. She has said she isn't. Such as I have a little Jewish background, but have never claimed that I'm a Jew (despite the fact that milk is giving me gas as I get older).


She goes on about being a Cherokee to the point where she takes a DNA test to prove it - and yet the Fordham Law Review decided to call her a person of color on its own without any imput from her? Unlikely. More likely she was posing as Native American woman of color. She and she alone has been actively behind this from the 1995 Harvard law school hiring to the 2018 failed DNA test. Now she as a white person is having to go around proclaiming that she's (obviously) not a person of color. ...And this is all supposed to be someone elses fault.


If she did, it was only because of what her family had told her. It hardly means she was purposely deceitful, say like Trump claiming he's a self made billionaire (he isn't self made, let alone a real billionaire).


Lots of white families have stories of a native american ancestor. Even mine does. But next to none of us has ever or will ever be referred to as a person of color or get a DNA test to prove we have a smattering Native American... unless we go around saying we are native americans. One reason why I would never think about calling myself a Sioux, is because the native american people have a rich heritage that I am not a part of and have suffered greatly in ways that I have never been a part of.

Now I don't think this is any big deal or major outrage. But I'm sure not going to mind her getting lampooned over it.


Trump and his old man for years denied their German heritage by claiming to be Swedish; a thing I, as a German American, find particularly egregious. They damn well knew they weren't Swedes, but said they were. Does he deserve to be lampooned for that?


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09 Jan 2019, 6:36 pm

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How many of you defending the candidate would think its a minor thing if she said she is autistic because a psychologist once told her she had one autistic trait?

Of it was a republican who did it they’d be demanding hers/his resignation.



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09 Jan 2019, 10:13 pm

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I think Bernie demonstrated how an elderly candidate can be popular with the young.


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10 Jan 2019, 10:58 am

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Now I don't think this is any big deal or major outrage. But I'm sure not going to mind her getting lampooned over it.


Trump and his old man for years denied their German heritage by claiming to be Swedish; a thing I, as a German American, find particularly egregious. They damn well knew they weren't Swedes, but said they were. Does he deserve to be lampooned for that?


Absolutely. When Trump calls her Pocahontas, she can call him Leif Erikson.


(I know Erikson was from Iceland but that's the only name that popped into my head)



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10 Jan 2019, 11:00 am

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I think Bernie demonstrated how an elderly candidate can be popular with the young.


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I think Bernie demonstrated how an elderly candidate can be popular with the young.


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Damn right!


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10 Jan 2019, 11:14 pm

Yup.

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11 Jan 2019, 12:29 am

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


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11 Jan 2019, 12:51 am

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I actually agree, but it doesn't mean the Republicans are any better. Vote Green!



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11 Jan 2019, 1:10 am

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?



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11 Jan 2019, 1:36 am

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?


Actually, Trump probably isn't as rich as he says he is. We could only know from his tax returns, and he's desperate not to release those.
And I'll add about Trump, he definitely didn't write his own books, either.


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11 Jan 2019, 5:53 am

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?


Actually, Trump probably isn't as rich as he says he is. We could only know from his tax returns, and he's desperate not to release those.
And I'll add about Trump, he definitely didn't write his own books, either.


I should have said sorta a false equivalency. I just know his official net worth is 3.1 billion fwiw. But he'd be pretending to have things in common with the advantaged. Which he does anyways whatever his net worth is. Seems different than a rich white person pretending to be a minority et al.

What if you had one candidate who pretended to be rich and another candidate who pretended to be autistic? Which one is worse?



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11 Jan 2019, 10:52 am

EzraS wrote:
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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?


Actually, Trump probably isn't as rich as he says he is. We could only know from his tax returns, and he's desperate not to release those.
And I'll add about Trump, he definitely didn't write his own books, either.


I should have said sorta a false equivalency. I just know his official net worth is 3.1 billion fwiw. But he'd be pretending to have things in common with the advantaged. Which he does anyways whatever his net worth is. Seems different than a rich white person pretending to be a minority et al.

What if you had one candidate who pretended to be rich and another candidate who pretended to be autistic? Which one is worse?


As there are so many self-diagnosed autistics, it's impossible to prove that someone was faking it. Pretending to be rich is just sad.


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13 Jan 2019, 10:59 pm

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Trump and his old man for years denied their German heritage by claiming to be Swedish; a thing I, as a German American, find particularly egregious. They damn well knew they weren't Swedes, but said they were. Does he deserve to be lampooned for that?
Aren't the Scandinavian countries German colonies? I know they're related somehow. For awhile after WWII it wasn't cool to be German. You need to put their denial (if it actually happened) in the context of when they denied it. Not in the context of today. But then again you liberals wanna put all of human history in the context of today and want people to skip straight to the (theoretical)end of the evolutionary process and be perfect instead of being allowed to make mistakes. By your logic the democratic party should be abolished because your party were the original racists. The KKK were and are democrats and most slave owners were democrats. So according to your logic, you should all kill yourselves.


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