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And why exactly is that? Because homosexuals don't have the right to speak out when people are talking s**t about them?
No, because it is not conducive to constructive conversations.
So it doesn't matter if it's the actual truth?
Just because someone has a different opinion than yours, wouldn't it be better discuss it in a civilized manner? I agree with you that heterosexuality is not a choice. But someone who doesn't agree with that is not, by default, a homophobe.
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And why exactly is that? Because homosexuals don't have the right to speak out when people are talking s**t about them?
No, because it is not conducive to constructive conversations.
So it doesn't matter if it's the actual truth?
Just because someone has a different opinion than yours, wouldn't it be better discuss it in a civilized manner? I agree with you that heterosexuality is not a choice. But someone who doesn't agree with that is not, by default, a homophobe.
Well I consider it pretty homophobic when he implies that homosexuals are pedophiles and he has the nerve to imply that I'm a pedophile.
Oh but I can't "play that card", can I? I have to pretend to be "civil, don't I?
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Stop with this BS, for Christ Sake! Everyone should be able to express their opinion without fear of being labeled a bigot. Crimadella has made his case, now debate it without resorting to childish defaming of his character. Isn't that against WP TOS, by the way?
No one is 'childishly defaming' Crimadella . He's been rightly called out on deliberating making a thread that combines paedophilia with being gay , pushing the line that paedophilia is a gay thing as opposed to it being something straight men also do .
Did he do that? I don't think so. I read back through the whole thread before I made my comment above. I did not interpret it that way.
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Stop with this BS, for Christ Sake! Everyone should be able to express their opinion without fear of being labeled a bigot. Crimadella has made his case, now debate it without resorting to childish defaming of his character. Isn't that against WP TOS, by the way?
No one is 'childishly defaming' Crimadella . He's been rightly called out on deliberating making a thread that combines paedophilia with being gay , pushing the line that paedophilia is a gay thing as opposed to it being something straight men also do .
Did he do that? I don't think so. I read back through the whole thread before I made my comment above. I did not interpret it that way.
Then you clearly don't know how to read in between the lines.
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Stop with this BS, for Christ Sake! Everyone should be able to express their opinion without fear of being labeled a bigot. Crimadella has made his case, now debate it without resorting to childish defaming of his character. Isn't that against WP TOS, by the way?
No one is 'childishly defaming' Crimadella . He's been rightly called out on deliberating making a thread that combines paedophilia with being gay , pushing the line that paedophilia is a gay thing as opposed to it being something straight men also do .
Did he do that? I don't think so. I read back through the whole thread before I made my comment above. I did not interpret it that way.
Then you clearly don't know how to read in between the lines.
You're entitled to that opinion, as well. See how this works? This is how you have a civilized discussion.
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I also agree. I also didn't choose to be gay. Nobody chooses to be something that will get them ostracized by their peers and families.
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Stop with this BS, for Christ Sake! Everyone should be able to express their opinion without fear of being labeled a bigot. Crimadella has made his case, now debate it without resorting to childish defaming of his character. Isn't that against WP TOS, by the way?
No one is 'childishly defaming' Crimadella . He's been rightly called out on deliberating making a thread that combines paedophilia with being gay , pushing the line that paedophilia is a gay thing as opposed to it being something straight men also do .
Did he do that? I don't think so. I read back through the whole thread before I made my comment above. I did not interpret it that way.
Then you clearly don't know how to read in between the lines.
You're entitled to that opinion, as well. See how this works? This is how you have a civilized discussion.
I'm sorry if I can't be as phony about my emotions when people offend me as others would like.
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I could agree with that, while being gay doesn't mean you are a pedophile, pedophiles would be attracted to these opportunities to expose themselves to children, same thing with the transgender movement focusing on converting children into transgenders. By all means, if you are an adult and you really desire that, it's your choice to do so, I don't think it's the healthy choice and research backs that opinion up, it tends to only give temporary relief, people live past temporary and often convert back to their biological sex.
Nobody chooses to be Transgender. Take it from me. I know. I'm Trans myself. I don't wake up each morning saying, "I want my mum to hate me today."
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I could agree with that, while being gay doesn't mean you are a pedophile, pedophiles would be attracted to these opportunities to expose themselves to children, same thing with the transgender movement focusing on converting children into transgenders. By all means, if you are an adult and you really desire that, it's your choice to do so, I don't think it's the healthy choice and research backs that opinion up, it tends to only give temporary relief, people live past temporary and often convert back to their biological sex.
Nobody chooses to be Transgender. Take it from me. I know. I'm Trans myself. I don't wake up each morning saying, "I want my mum to hate me today."
Not only are you Homophobic. I see that you're also Transphobic as well.
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I could agree with that, while being gay doesn't mean you are a pedophile, pedophiles would be attracted to these opportunities to expose themselves to children, same thing with the transgender movement focusing on converting children into transgenders. By all means, if you are an adult and you really desire that, it's your choice to do so, I don't think it's the healthy choice and research backs that opinion up, it tends to only give temporary relief, people live past temporary and often convert back to their biological sex.
Nobody chooses to be Transgender. Take it from me. I know. I'm Trans myself. I don't wake up each morning saying, "I want my mum to hate me today."
Agreed and I dont choose to be gay, but apparently that'a just an "opinion" I have.
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If people exposing their members at Pride parades in public were a widespread phenomenon Fox News, Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, National Review etc would hyperfocus on it.
It is true that back in the immediate years after Stonewall a lot of people could not handle their new found freedom and opportunities that came with that freedom and went overboard in a similar manner to the way young people get all stoned and drunk when are away from their parents for the first time. That is why AIDS hit that population so hard. But that was about 40 years ago. That permissive reckless party all day and night behavior has not been mainstream LGBTQ in a long time.
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Stop with this BS, for Christ Sake! Everyone should be able to express their opinion without fear of being labeled a bigot. Crimadella has made his case, now debate it without resorting to childish defaming of his character. Isn't that against WP TOS, by the way?
Thank you for saying that. I was coming back to state what got me irritated by a few commentators within this thread. It's the fact that it's becoming nearly impossible to have an actual discussion because rather than simply having a discussion few individuals just start throwing accusations. It's not most people, but certainly enough to ruin a conversation. Whole two of them actually tried to make some points that I tried to discus they couldn't help but to attach their false accusations along with it, and that is just so irratating. I'm not homophobic neither do I hate gays. Alot of people are so ignorant they don't understand the difference between the two accusations. Homophobic means you are uncomfortable around homosexuals, it's not the same thing as hating homosexuals. I have social phobia as well as a phobia of being around people, in no way do I hate people. Being homophobic isn't even a negative thing, it simply means you are uncomfotable...phobic. regardless, I am neither nervous around homosexuals nor do I hate them, they are simply people with different sexual orientation that straight. They are still, as every human, individuals which hold their independent views, personality, likes and dislikes. To me that is just a cheap way out of having a real discussion which shows a lack of thought and an emotional conflict. The worse thing about these kind of people, acussers, is you can't even correct them by stating that you aren't whatever they are a cussing you of, as if I have to prove I don't hate homosexuals. If they were serious about actually having a conversation they would take your word for it, but they are really just therealized to have imotional responses and irratates people.
If they wouldn't have acted like a**hole throwing g false accusations I could have clarified that I didn't mean to say, it's your choice, obviously people have limited control over things they like and dislike. As I mentioned, I don't believe in the born that way myth, it's an attempt to claim something extremely complex full of many different factors is as simple as someone being born gay or straight. Example being, if you had a child and raised them to be reserved on sex and standard male female relationsships odds are they would be straight. If the same sex were molested and groomed them as a child the possibility they would grow up to be bi or homosexuality would greatly increase. A person's life and experiences play a huge role in how people develope likes and dislikes, that applies to most things including sexual orientation to the foods you like. There are genetics also which 'contribute', not dictate. For example, the doctor which studied and treated people with gender disphoria for 40 years had results which stated out of like 500 patients over 30 years, around 40% of them had tramatizing events in their early childhood, from parents divorcing and fighting to sexual and physical abuse.
Anyway, it sucks you can't have conversations whiteout people butting in making accusations without having a clue as to what they are talking about. I know myself way better than any of the ones who accused me of being homophobic, I'm most certain I would know whether homosexuals make me uncomfortable or not, and they don't, not anymore than people in general.
And why exactly is that? Because homosexuals don't have the right to speak out when people are talking s**t about them?
So what you are saying is you are a paren't dumb enough to take your children to hyper sexualized events? Because that's who I was criticizing and you sure are being definite about it. It's pointless for me to do anything other than ignore you and just let you hold on to your absurd beliefs, having a conversation would be impossible.
Stop with this BS, for Christ Sake! Everyone should be able to express their opinion without fear of being labeled a bigot. Crimadella has made his case, now debate it without resorting to childish defaming of his character. Isn't that against WP TOS, by the way?
No one is 'childishly defaming' Crimadella . He's been rightly called out on deliberating making a thread that combines paedophilia with being gay , pushing the line that paedophilia is a gay thing as opposed to it being something straight men also do .
Rightly my ass. That's about the same as someone reporting that a white guy robbed a bank then someone stepping in suggesting they should have just reported that a person robbed the bank, why include that they were white, you must be racist. See how stupid those kind of arguments are??
I could agree with that, while being gay doesn't mean you are a pedophile, pedophiles would be attracted to these opportunities to expose themselves to children, same thing with the transgender movement focusing on converting children into transgenders. By all means, if you are an adult and you really desire that, it's your choice to do so, I don't think it's the healthy choice and research backs that opinion up, it tends to only give temporary relief, people live past temporary and often convert back to their biological sex.
Nobody chooses to be Transgender. Take it from me. I know. I'm Trans myself. I don't wake up each morning saying, "I want my mum to hate me today."
Not only are you Homophobic. I see that you're also Transphobic as well.
Not only are you an accuser, you also have no clue as to what the word transphobic means. I have watched a lot of information conducted by a professional over 40 years of working with people with gender disphoria, what have you done? Sit back and imagine?
