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24 Jun 2019, 4:55 am

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why do we have to trust pentagon scientists, scientific journalists , or our own eyes


I'm an experiencer and I trust my own eyes.

The only question in my mind is if what I saw in the 1970s was some type of secret black project that's being kept under wraps. I have seen plenty of youtube videos of UFOs produced in the last 20 years that look exactly like what I saw.



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24 Jun 2019, 9:27 am

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If your vehicle travels at a hundred thousand miles an hour and makes right angle turns....you might be an alien.


Technically aliens can send remote probes to earth that could travel really fast/breaking dimension barriers and the alien creators don't need to be physically present when negotiating with us primitive humans (heck I wouldn't if I was an alien). The common knowledge in UFO circles are the grays are grunts/droids of some type who are able to interact/interphase with our world.



Well, yes that could be true, and there have been reports of small balls that fly around, that would seem more like an instrument, like an unmanned drone.

Being they would be super advanced, which also somewhat matches up with reports of USO's, it's possible, while they may come and go also, that there may be some of them stationed here. I've heard of a few reports saying they have a tendency of disarming nuclear warheads. It's likely they are here to monitor our advancements and make sure we don't wipe humanity out with nuclear wars. It's possible the could have stations in our oceans, I forgot to mention that one. I know you don't believe Lazar, he sounded honest to me. It's possible there is a mix of manned ones and unmanned ones. There are endless possibilities. I think it would be a stretch to say they would have no interest in us, if they were coming here it wouldn't be to just make fly bys, they would more than likely be interested in how we are evolving in technology. Maybe they don't help us evolve technology faster because we start too many wars, to war hungry. It's also possible that if we near them in technological advancements before we grow out of being war hungry they might take us out or do something to set us back.



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24 Jun 2019, 9:32 am

Who knows, maybe even the "ancient alien astronaut theorists" are on to something and they created the whole god theory and influenced the bible to chill us out from just being murderous animals. Other than that, the ancient alien astronaut theorists are likely not correct about much past that.



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25 Jun 2019, 3:28 am

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Maybe they don't help us evolve technology faster because we start too many wars, to war hungry. It's also possible that if we near them in technological advancements before we grow out of being war hungry they might take us out or do something to set us back.


Yeah I tend to think this is the case, People who experience abduction often recall the aliens communicating about the importance of our stewardship of the planet both in terms of sustainability, environment and the dangers of war etc...although the aliens might just be putting them under a really heavy dose of anaesthetic causing hallucination while they extract tissue/sperm/eggs for their hybridisation experiments. I wouldn't be surprised every time there's a mass extinction on earth they repopulate the planet using some type of germplasm bank.

The new hybrid humans will be ready soon and we'll be like the Neanderthals and Denisovans walking through our last days...



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25 Jun 2019, 3:31 am

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Who knows, maybe even the "ancient alien astronaut theorists" are on to something and they created the whole god theory and influenced the bible to chill us out from just being murderous animals. Other than that, the ancient alien astronaut theorists are likely not correct about much past that.


Yeah I think earth was supposed to be terraformed by the creators after Mars got wacked by asteroids. God making man in his image sounds like alien genetic engineering. I don;t think we are far removed from murderous animals given the last 100 years saw hundreds of mass murders all over the planet.



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25 Jun 2019, 7:26 am

Perhaps they have already wiped us out once before? There is a little evidence surfacing which indicates that possibly we were more advanced than cave men around 10,000 years ago. There are some who think the sphinx is about 5000 to 6000 years older than mainstream archeologists believe. But then to add, there are other structures that predate the Egyptian culture. I can't remember the name of it but it's some massive dig going on in a desert. Last time I checked they had only uncovered about 5% of it and as most old cities it was constructed with large stones just put together precisely, the remarkable thing about that place is they estimated it existed 5000 to 6000 years before the Egypt pyrimids, they had fancy stone work also, with statues and carved out drawings of tropical animals which made them assume that when the place was constructed the area was jungle, while it is now just a big desert. They do find some amazing things. I used to watch ancient aliens basically just to see the old structures they discussed not the narritive they push. Though the things they claim are in the bible or bibles which sounds like UFO sightings is interesting. Many people try to debunk it, but in reality they don't know for sure what types of things people saw back then and labeled them as God's or angles. I remember seeing one thing that basically looked like a little metal tag that would be placed on sold goods, who really know what it could be. Maybe we were much more murderous before they wiped us out by pulling an asteroid towards us. Someone else I was watching recently said something about he thinks we were more advanced around 10,000 to 12,000 years ago but a giant asteroid struck and set us back. He was on Joe Rogan, he made those claim a long time ago in a book and recently, within the last decade they have discovered a huge asteroid impact crater somewhere around canada. The ice is melting and exposed a huge crater, I think they are still working on dating it but so far they said it's likely it happend before the last ice age. I'm not sure when that was suposed to be?

Any idea when the first bits of the bible where wrote? It would be a nice picture if that also tied in about 10,000 to 12,000 years ago.



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25 Jun 2019, 7:36 am

As murderous and corrupt as our government, military complex is, I wouldn't suspect any alien concerned about our development would be working with them or showing them anything about their technology. Our military, or any other governments military is not good for mankind, they are murderous animals consumed by the greed of power, that's why I lean more towards they have nothing to do with our government other than putting them in check. No no mister war monger, you aren't launching this missile.



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26 Jun 2019, 2:07 am

Crimadella wrote:
Someone else I was watching recently said something about he thinks we were more advanced around 10,000 to 12,000 years ago but a giant asteroid struck and set us back.
Any idea when the first bits of the bible where wrote? It would be a nice picture if that also tied in about 10,000 to 12,000 years ago.


There is a global memory of the great flood when the last ice age finished around 12,000BC. The Noah myth is quite old pre-dating the ancient Sumerians.

There is a newly discovered temple complex in the Anatolian peninsula (Modern Turkey) that coincides with the end of the ice-age and is highly advanced indicating that our perception of paleolithic man as "stone age" is completely wrong
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... -83613665/

https://www.ranker.com/list/facts-about ... ephanroget



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26 Jun 2019, 3:16 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Someone else I was watching recently said something about he thinks we were more advanced around 10,000 to 12,000 years ago but a giant asteroid struck and set us back.
Any idea when the first bits of the bible where wrote? It would be a nice picture if that also tied in about 10,000 to 12,000 years ago.


There is a global memory of the great flood when the last ice age finished around 12,000BC. The Noah myth is quite old pre-dating the ancient Sumerians.



That's not proven, but that IS one theory.

The familiar Noah version of the story goes back to maybe 700 BC. But we now know that that story was plagarized from the Sumerians in Mesopotamia because there are cuniform texts of the Sumerian/Mesopotamian flood myth of Gilgamesh going back to 2800 BC (basically all of the way back to the beginnings of writing itself- in the oldest civilization to have writing).

So the real answer to his question of "when was the Noah story written?" is: 2700 years ago in its present Biblical form, but almost five thousand years ago it had already been "written" in its almost identical earlier Pagan form as the Epic of Gilgamesh.

Obviously the story was already an old oral tradition at the dawn of writing itself. How much older is anyone's guess.

But the Middle East does not have monopoly on Flood myths. The Chinese, and Indigenious Americans, also had flood myths as well.

That IS one theory that all of these flood myths around he world were inspired by real cataclysms that occurred when the last ice age ended, and sea levels rose the world over when the glaciers melted. But the last ice age ended six thousand years before the invention of writing in the earlist civilizations.



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26 Jun 2019, 4:23 am

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That IS one theory that all of these flood myths around he world were inspired by real cataclysms that occurred when the last ice age ended, and sea levels rose the world over when the glaciers melted. But the last ice age ended six thousand years before the invention of writing in the earlist civilizations.

But that's why I said the flood story predates the Sumerians and probably a collective memory of an event at the end of the last ice age. We already know when the ice melted the sea levels rose and flooded coastal settlements all over the world.



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27 Jun 2019, 9:27 pm

Former Senate majority leader Harry Reid says the public has a right to know what the military has learned about UFOs.
“They would be surprised how the American public would accept it,” he said, according to Fox News.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/harry-r ... itary-ufos



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27 Jun 2019, 10:02 pm

^ I wonder if the senator of the Area 51 state knows a thing or two.



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28 Jun 2019, 1:21 am

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^ I wonder if the senator of the Area 51 state knows a thing or two.


He's not the first
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/81 ... nix-Lights



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28 Jun 2019, 2:38 am

i remember reading how the late senator Barry Goldwater [AZ] once asked gen. Curtis Lemay about the contents of "the secret room" and the general hollered back, "G*dd*mnit Goldwater, not only can’t you get into it but don’t you ever mention it to me again!"



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28 Jun 2019, 4:45 am

I think Richard Nixon told his good friend actress Shirley McLaine about the UFO cover-up, not to mention Reagan and Carter both saw UFOs
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/b ... d912d6e49e



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28 Jun 2019, 5:15 am

had no idea that Shirley McLaine and nixon would have much to do with each other, as they were both on opposite sides politically. from what i've read, the only democratic presidents to be "shown the goods" were truman and obama. nixon did show his good friend jackie gleason the goods.