Face mask myths busted

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I would love to see this laser-camera detector used on people talking while wearing different kinds of masks.

The R0 of this virus is only around 3. Plenty of close relatives (caregivers) don't get infected. Same with healthcare workers caring for the patients. That fact alone makes the microdroplet route highly unlikely. Humans can inhale the virus up to certain point without getting sick. That is well-known. It can happen, but with all the evidences out there, the microdroplet route just doesn't seem all that important. People need to remember the R0 value. This virus is very different from an airborne virus like measles, where R0 is ~17.

Martha McSally calls on WHO director to resign
The Arizona Republican says the organization needs to stop covering up for China.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/02/mcsally-calls-on-who-director-to-resign-161327
... Sen. Martha McSally is calling on the World Health Organization director general to step down over what she deems his assistance in covering up China's underreporting of the coronavirus, part of an escalating series of GOP criticisms of the organization. ...

The opening salvo has been fired. Now it's not a matter of if, but just a matter of when Tedros Adhanom will resign from WHO.

True but you can take of your gloves before washing or using hand sanitizer and dispose of the glove, its an added layer of protection like masks

A lot of farcical information being peddled around about facemasks

The Australian government listens to the Commonwealth Deputy Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly on advice relating to facemasks.

Within the last 24 hrs Professor Kelly pointed to limited supplies of masks, and potential misuse that could make them "more dangerous", as reasons for not advising the widespread use of them.

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"At the moment, we do not think that is a good idea, partly because of that constraint of supply, but also the effectiveness in relation to people walking around with masks," he said at a press conference.

Professor Kelly said even if there was an unlimited supply of masks, he still would not advise everyone to use them.

"Using a mask incorrectly can actually make it more dangerous.

"For example, if you are not used to wearing a mask, it can become quite uncomfortable … it can become quite itchy underneath the mask."

Professor Kelly said if you touched a surface with the virus, then scratched an itch underneath the mask, you could "increase your risk, rather than decrease your risk" of becoming infected.

So for the foreseeable future no mandatory facemasks for Australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-04/ ... s/12122042

There is no arguing. Just look at this picture. And in particular, pay attention to the case of Czech Republic.



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CDC Now Recommends Americans Consider Wearing Cloth Face Coverings In Public

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/03/826219824/president-trump-says-cdc-now-recommends-americans-wear-cloth-masks-in-public
... President Trump said Friday the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now recommends that people wear cloth or fabric face coverings, which can be made at home, when entering public spaces such as grocery stores and public transit stations. It is mainly to prevent those people who have the virus — and might not know it — from spreading the infection to others.

Well, they are recommending wearing masks to the public. But the reason is still not the correct one.

See, asymptomatic people tend to be younger folks. And those are the least likely to wear masks. So again, CDC is lying their ass. Nothing new there. A whole bunch of habitual liars. That's OK, people will remember these clowns from CDC. They have blood in their hands.

Why can't they just tell the truth, for once? The main purpose of wearing masks is not to stop asymptomatic people from infecting others. Asymptomatic people don't tend to wear masks, anyway. The main purpose of wearing masks is to prevent people from touching their own face. These clowns from CDC have to dance around the truth just to save their own face.

That's the problem with telling lies. Once you tell a lie, you then need to invent another lie to cover your previous lie. These clowns know perfectly well what the truth is. So they do recommend masks, now. It's just that they need to twist their argument to make it more palatable for the general public to follow their advice, without admitting that CDC screwed up big time with their original advice (not wearing masks). They are treating the American public like ret*ds.

Yes I have seen this graph and I recommend you read how such graphs are misleading
https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/da ... h/3986051/

Australia isn't the OECD country stamping out false claims about masks, so is the UK
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51729647

You are over emphasising the importance of masks if this was the only reason. Here in Australia all businesses/shops have staff standing at the entrance require customers to apply hand sanitizer before and after leaving the premises. Outside of these places people are practicing social distance anyway.


As the father of an autistic child you should be ashamed of yourself throwing around slurs like this??

Whenever I am sick and go to the medical center, I am required to wear a mask. Why is that?

One thing I don't get about this video. The girl says that no one was wearing masks a week ago, she says that people would have mocked you. A week later everyone is required to wear a mask because "influencers" created a movement. So how does such a resent change account for the lower cases seen previously to last week? (this video was posted a few days ago right?)

OK she's happy to take take credit and say "we did things differently" but in truth it must be something else.

It seems to me that due to particular scientific views and a generalised perception of their effectives it is likely that mask wearing will become more prevalent and may even prompt some legal requirement in places.

In neither of the two links, they have explained at all why East Asian countries have COVID-19 under control, while Europe and US are in hot water. What is your explanation? How come you keep evading this question?

We all know the case of initial explosion in China: they hid facts from the general public, until it was too late.

Taiwan was the very first country to sound alarm, that this virus was transmitting from people to people. No one else in the world was paying attention to this virus, for about one month. Taiwan was the first country to ban flights from Wuhan. You guys do remember that even afterwards, when countries were stopping flights from China, Tedros Adhanonm was still saying that other countries shouldn't cut flights from China, right? Taiwan was the first country in the world to ban export of masks. Now that Taiwan has increased its mask manufacturing capability by an order of magnitude, it has donated ten million masks to US and European countries. It is just funny that when Taiwan was cranking up its mask production capability, US and European countries sat on the sideline and watched idly. And now US and European countries complain that they don't have enough masks. I mean, come on, give me a break.

As for Korea, this what happens when people don't wear masks:

This was the chairman of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus, apologizing to his country (and for a change, wearing a mask). He was the one that made COVID-19 spin out of control in Korea. You can read more in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shincheonji_Church_of_Jesus#Association_with_the_coronavirus_outbreak

... By 20 February 2020, 53 new cases were Shincheonji attendees or their families, reaching over 300 by 23 February, over half of all cases in South Korea. With an additional 4,000 cases of COVID-19 within two weeks, and roughly 60% of the total infections nationwide having stemmed from the church, the Seoul city government asked prosecutors to press charges against the religious group's founder and senior members for murder, causing harm, and for violating the Infectious Disease and Control Act. Interviews have occurred with all 230,000 members of the religious group and nearly 9,000 were said to be showing symptoms of the virus. ...

A few pictures of Sinchoenji gatherings. Attendees are sometimes required to wear diapers so that they don't need to go to bathrooms and interrupt the gatherings. You would think that is a joke, but, sadly, no, it's not a joke. Do you see anybody wearing masks in these gatherings? They might wear diapers, but they certainly did not wear masks.




COVID-19 initially exploded in Japan, because they did not want to cut off flights from China. Japan even donated masks to China, only to regret their action very quickly afterwards.

So, to answer your question: the initial explosion of cases in China and Korea, was because people did not wear masks.

The funny thing is, I wonder how you can stare at the facts, and still decide to lie? You are just as guilty as the folks of WHO and CDC.

Please watch 5:00.

You too, OP.

And you try to understand what R0 is. This virus is now virtually in all the households in the world. Yet, most people don't get sick. Why?

Because the existence of the virus per se is not enough to cause the disease. Human body can handle small amount of virus, no problem. For the virus to cause disease, it needs to come in sufficient number. And that, you don't seem to understand.

80/20 rule. You use 20% of resources to solve 80% of problems. You cannot be oblivious to the main problem. Fingers touching face is the main problem. Propagation through the air is unlikely if you wear any kind of coverage, unless someone coughs directly into your face. Plenty of close relatives of patients don't get infected. Try to understand R0, please. This virus is not as contagious as people want to make it seem to be. All our effort is just to make R0 go below 1. With R0 below 1, this virus will disappear. It is not necessary for R0 to be zero for the virus to disappear.

This is a front line doctor. Dr. David Price, from NYC's Weill Cornell Medical Center. Listen to him. You don't need medical masks. For the general public, any type of coverage would do. Of course, in confined places like subways or airplanes, you do need to upgrade, and a medical mask would help in those situations.



Where I live, yesterday the police gave fines to people that went to watch sunset and have picnic by the beach. Do you know why? The danger is not in the air. The danger is people touching spots that other people may tough, including tables, faucets, bathroom door handles, seats/benches, handrails, etc. Several lifeguards have gotten sick, despite all the social-distance rules. People's hands/fingers remain as the main route of propagation. That is why California has closed down even small neighborhood parks. California asks all retail store workers to wear masks, now, because all too many grocery store workers have gotten infected despite the social distancing rules (6 feet). Again, the most likely route of infection was from customers' hands/fingers, to "touchable spots," to the workers' hands/fingers, to finally land on workers' faces.

Priceless Trump just did a complete change of heart on people wearing masks ..
on the news last nite . now everyone should wear them now.

News say no recovery in site , for the economy either.