Mississippi gov declares April ‘Confederate Heritage Month’

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I'm doing OK, been practicing my tarot cards. I tried to like GWtW but ultimately decided it was too offensive and represents everything I hate about the south. Even though both Rhett and Scarlett were very likable in a twisted kind of way. There's better movies out there set in the south like The Green Mile, Slingblade, Forrest Gump, and recentl I bought To Kill A Mockingbird because I loved the book as a kid.

If you watch GWtW as entertainment in a soap-opera-ish way, and not as an historically accurate depiction of the South, it makes for a much better experience (imho).

TKaM is also a great dramatic piece; but if you come away from it thinking that Atticus was a fair-minded character, you might not have noticed that he is more interested in legal justice than in moral fairness.

But that's exactly why it bothers me. There are plenty of folks in Georgia who actually do believe that the Antebellum South was like that. Leave it to Hollywood to destroy history, right? At least the other movies I mentioned offered a glimmer of hope that not every white person in the south is a bigot. Anywho if I were to pick two tarot cards for Scarlett and Rhett, it'd have to be The Emperess and The Emperor. Perfect, right?

I'm more interested in trying to understand the mindset of people, rather than, you know.

Kortie alluded to the consideration of circumstance: "Especially those who had no vast plantations."
Sanctimony may simply be a question of personal circumstance in many, if not most, situations.

My personal view on humanity is that it is less than perfect. Oh my.
Given the "right" situation, a villain could have been a saint, and vice versa.
"There but for the grace of god go I", sort of thingie.

Needless to say, I am not big on self-righteousness.

I come up with the Queen of Cups for Scarlett, and The Hanged Man (inverted) for Rhett.

I feel like Lincoln wanted to punish the Confederate states for seceding from the Union.

The primary anger Lincoln felt with the Confederacy was the fact that they threatened the integrity of the Union—even more than slavery.

Lincoln found slavery abhorrent—but he was never an Abolitionist because Abolitionism was not politically expedient. He was a Free-Soiler publicly.

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There was the "Emancipation Proclamation", and then there was the later 13th Amendment.

The EP only freed slaves in parts of the nation in which Lincoln had no power to free the slaves (ie those in the Southern Confederacy). And did not free slaves in the middle tier of states: Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware, that were slave states but had elected to stay in the Union.As Lincoln said to an adviser "I have 50 thousand bayonets in my army from the border states" so he couldn't outlaw slavery in those states because it would have driven those states into the arms of Confederacy.

The EP was a PR stunt, but a masterful PR stunt by a master statesmen (Lincoln) that (for complicated reasons) furthered the cause of the Union, and paved the way for the later 13th Amendment even though initially the EP only freed maybe a few hundred slaves .

The 13th Amendment came in the last year of the war after the north had conquered much of south( and had actually freed many slaves thanks to the EP), and shortly before Lee surrendered. The Amendment was the real deal that abolished slavery throughout the nation, north south and middle in all states loyal or secessionist-. So when the south gave up after Lee surrendered that was the end of slavery in the then reunited states of America.

Quite the opposite.

Once the war was over Lincoln was all about defending the south from his "Radical Republican" compadres in Congress- the later were indeed all about punishing the south. Booth killed the south's best postwar friend- which IS "ironic".

I agree with what Naturalplastic says. Lincoln was a master politician.

I believe, in his heart, that Lincoln supported emancipation...but he did believe Africans were an inferior race.

Lincoln was smart enough not to believe in Radical Reconstruction.

Had his milder Reconstruction ruled the day, perhaps there wouldn’t have been Jim Crow.

The EP was his punishment to the South.

I can't help but feel that the north is still trying to find ways to punish the south.

Interesting.

I can't help but feel that a lot of political leaders in the South want slavery restored as a legal institution.

I love the South.

I’ve met many nice Southern people.

Most white Southerners, after the 1960s, modified their views about racial minorities.

George Wallace was a politician. He knew segregation wasn’t in style in 1972.

Jimmy Carter’s father and mother both worked hard for integration. Berry Gordy was a not-so-distant relative. Jimmy Carter’s mother’s maiden name was Gordy.

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I believe there are racists all over.

I believe even the vast majority of Southern politicians—even extremely conservative ones, and even racists—wouldn’t want to bring back the institution of slavery.

Maybe a few of the white ones. There's actually quite a few conservative black political leaders from the south who I'm sure wouldn't agree to that, and given the fact that there's more black people living in the south than up north if any politician tried to legalize slavery again it would most likely cause a violent revolt in the south.