Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
TheRobotLives wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
In America, citizens are free to buy their health insurance if they want it.
The real world rarely aligns itself neatly in accordance with one-liner statements.
The United States of America has the most expensive health care system in the entire world, so a lot of US citizens simply cannot afford to pay for health insurance out-of-pocket.
And prior to passage of the Affordable Care Act - the one you yourself so badly want to repeal - a lot of people simply *couldn't* buy health insurance at all because they were excluded from coverage by insurance companies due to pre-existing conditions.
Poor people get free health care, it's called Medicare.
"You can join a Medicare Advantage Plan even if you have a Pre-existing condition "
https://www.medicare.gov/sign-up-change ... tage-plans
The problem you're discussing is when people don't want to pay for expensive medical insurance, and complain, "I can't afford it".
Medicare is not health care for poor people.
This is what Medicare covers:
Medicare wrote:
Medicare is the federal health insurance program for:
People who are 65 or older
Certain younger people with disabilities
People with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or a transplant, sometimes called ESRD)
People who are 65 or older
Certain younger people with disabilities
People with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or a transplant, sometimes called ESRD)
Source (same website as in your link above): https://www.medicare.gov/what-medicare- ... s-medicare
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Something closer to medicare for all is the sort of repeal ACA/Obamacare needs.
Or just actually affordable good insurance.
Or just actually affordable good insurance.
To dive into this rabbit hole a little bit. It's complicated. Quality healthcare is expensive and there's no way around it. In part, one of the reasons healthcare around the world is less expensive is the US subsidizes medical advances like drug development by actually enforcing patent law and paying exorbitant prices. If the US stopped doing that you would either have a decrease in medical advancement or prices around the world would go up making those other countries healthcare not so affordable.
The US system has tons of flaws but you can find a number of measures in which it outperforms other first world systems. This isn't to say the US system is better, only that there are tradeoffs at play. Trying to pretend they don't exist is a bad way to evaluate future options.
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GGPViper wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
In America, citizens are free to buy their health insurance if they want it.
The real world rarely aligns itself neatly in accordance with one-liner statements.
The United States of America has the most expensive health care system in the entire world, so a lot of US citizens simply cannot afford to pay for health insurance out-of-pocket.
And prior to passage of the Affordable Care Act - the one you yourself so badly want to repeal - a lot of people simply *couldn't* buy health insurance at all because they were excluded from coverage by insurance companies due to pre-existing conditions.
Poor people get free health care, it's called Medicare.
"You can join a Medicare Advantage Plan even if you have a Pre-existing condition "
https://www.medicare.gov/sign-up-change ... tage-plans
The problem you're discussing is when people don't want to pay for expensive medical insurance, and complain, "I can't afford it".
Medicare is not health care for poor people.
This is what Medicare covers:
Medicare wrote:
Medicare is the federal health insurance program for:
People who are 65 or older
Certain younger people with disabilities
People with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or a transplant, sometimes called ESRD)
People who are 65 or older
Certain younger people with disabilities
People with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or a transplant, sometimes called ESRD)
Source (same website as in your link above): https://www.medicare.gov/what-medicare- ... s-medicare
Medicare (Medicare for All) is the single payer for poor people plan that the left is touting.
However, yes, I would of been better to cite Medicaid.
"Medicaid in the United States is a federal and state program that helps with medical costs for some people with limited income and resources."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid
Medicaid: Welcoming Americans with Pre-existing Conditions since 1965
https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2017/05/02/m ... ince-1965/
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