Lecturer At Yale Event Fantasizes About Murdering Whites
kraftiekortie wrote:
If a Jew in Nazi Germany talked about fantasizing about killing “Aryans,” I would raise the same objections.
“Critical Race Theory,” in some aspects, just doesn’t feel totally right to me.
I’m not invalidating anyone’s experiences of racism by not believing totally in CRT.
Just like I’m not a Commie for believing in socially liberal ideas.
“Critical Race Theory,” in some aspects, just doesn’t feel totally right to me.
I’m not invalidating anyone’s experiences of racism by not believing totally in CRT.
Just like I’m not a Commie for believing in socially liberal ideas.
“Critical Race Theory”, and "Systemic Racism" come across as being merely tools to justify racism, rather than an attempt to end it - Increasing the hatred between various groups rather than trying to find common ground and coming together to solve problems.
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Yale Child Study Center
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The Yale Child Study Center is a department at the Yale University School of Medicine. The center conducts research and provides clinical services and medical training related to children and families. Topics of investigation include autism and related disorders,[1] Tourette syndrome, other pediatric mental health concerns, parenting, and neurobiology.[2]

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The Yale Child Study Center is a department at the Yale University School of Medicine. The center conducts research and provides clinical services and medical training related to children and families. Topics of investigation include autism and related disorders,[1] Tourette syndrome, other pediatric mental health concerns, parenting, and neurobiology.[2]
Definitely an odd venue for this topic.
Don't you know that no place is "odd" for "woke" ideas?
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Are people not allowed to acknowledge the anger that dealing with systemic racism can cause?
Especially in the context she made the comments?
Tastes like a nothing burger.
Especially in the context she made the comments?
Tastes like a nothing burger.
How is this not "Hate Speech"?
I personally don't care If she wants to hate white people there is no law against it. Imagine though that it is a white college professor saying this about any non-white persons. This would be a national scandal.
The context would matter then too even if I would also argue that if the roles were flipped the motive that causes that impulse would be far less easy to defend.
I'm tired of dealing with racists and their attitudes.
vs.
I'm tired of seeing people who aren't white.
Trump's speech Jan 6 was taken Wayyy out of context. But that never seemed to matter.
The insurrectionists who said he inspired them and the "libs" seem to agree about what was meant. Context? Months of saying the election was rigged, years of saying we have got to take the country back from the "deep state"
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I don't know what context in which fantasizing about killing persons of another race would be OK.
Apparently, as part of a psychological exercise, it is ok in Yale, and it is ok among some members here it is OK to Brave.
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Mikah wrote:
The audio quality available is terrible, but some fine fellow has posted it on youtube with a reasonably good transcription:
It's pretty brutal so far. She harbours exceptional hatred for anti-racist whites. You're all deranged psychopaths it seems.
I cannot even begin a conversation about racism without a steely ice-dread warning from a wh***y that I be respectful not to generalise all people because well... that's racist. In a single moment, white people reverse the conversation to tell me that I'm racist to even dare bring it up. They say this with a perfect combination of condescension and concerned white-person-teacher-voice to offer me just enough hope of salvation.
It's pretty brutal so far. She harbours exceptional hatred for anti-racist whites. You're all deranged psychopaths it seems.
I cannot even begin a conversation about racism without a steely ice-dread warning from a wh***y that I be respectful not to generalise all people because well... that's racist. In a single moment, white people reverse the conversation to tell me that I'm racist to even dare bring it up. They say this with a perfect combination of condescension and concerned white-person-teacher-voice to offer me just enough hope of salvation.
This is not uncommon among radicals. There have always been elements of radicals that hate people that kind of agree with them but are not pure more than they hate ideological polar opposites. This is not only a left-wing issue, does RINO ring a bell?
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cyberdad wrote:
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A little context might be helpful before casting judgement on Dr Khilanani
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3022427/wh ... khilanani/
She's a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst so she is self-exploring facing the darker elements of her subconscious mind. I find her research interests quite fascinating.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3022427/wh ... khilanani/
She's a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst so she is self-exploring facing the darker elements of her subconscious mind. I find her research interests quite fascinating.
If it was a Trump-supporting psychiatrist and psychoanalyst saying this about blacks and she is self-exploring facing the darker elements of her subconscious mind would you find her research interesting?. Would you hope her remarks would start a dialogue?
I would not really care beyond hoping she does not act upon her hate. Same here.
I think as time elapses this lady will turn out to be extremely brave for expressing her inner most thoughts to the public.
While not less evil in 2021 America it would be "braver" for a professional person with a good career at risk to say they fantasize about killing blacks. Is it brave to someone to talk about fantasizing about killing women based on bad personal experiences? Outside of the dark web I do not see incels being lauded for bravery anywhere
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Brictoria wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If a Jew in Nazi Germany talked about fantasizing about killing “Aryans,” I would raise the same objections.
“Critical Race Theory,” in some aspects, just doesn’t feel totally right to me.
I’m not invalidating anyone’s experiences of racism by not believing totally in CRT.
Just like I’m not a Commie for believing in socially liberal ideas.
“Critical Race Theory,” in some aspects, just doesn’t feel totally right to me.
I’m not invalidating anyone’s experiences of racism by not believing totally in CRT.
Just like I’m not a Commie for believing in socially liberal ideas.
“Critical Race Theory”, and "Systemic Racism" come across as being merely tools to justify racism, rather than an attempt to end it - Increasing the hatred between various groups rather than trying to find common ground and coming together to solve problems.
In part, it is about intentionally provoking an overreaction that would "prove" how virtuous they are and how evil people who disagree with them are.
I kind of SUSPECT that is the motive here. That is why when I saw this a few days ago I choose not to post about it. If I did then it would validly open me up to the accusations of using one lunatic to paint all CRT supporters as lunatics. While those who have read my posts know I consider CRT an existential threat to values I hold I view this phenomenon as more complicated. I wish it was just about lunacy.
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cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
A little context might be helpful before casting judgement on Dr Khilanani
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3022427/wh ... khilanani/
She's a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst so she is self-exploring facing the darker elements of her subconscious mind. I find her research interests quite fascinating.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3022427/wh ... khilanani/
She's a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst so she is self-exploring facing the darker elements of her subconscious mind. I find her research interests quite fascinating.
If it was a Trump-supporting psychiatrist and psychoanalyst saying this about blacks and she is self-exploring facing the darker elements of her subconscious mind would you find her research interesting?. Would you hope her remarks would start a dialogue?
I would not really care beyond hoping she does not act upon her hate. Same here.
I think as time elapses this lady will turn out to be extremely brave for expressing her inner most thoughts to the public.
While not less evil in 2021 America it would be "braver" for a professional person with a good career at risk to say they fantasize about killing blacks. Is it brave to someone to talk about fantasizing about killing women based on bad personal experiences? Outside of the dark web I do not see incels being lauded for bravery anywhere
Putting the shoe on the other foot, I have already said I would be agreeable for a professional to come out and declare that they carry racist feelings/thoughts and sometimes feel like killing people. It's the first step in acknowledging they need help. The problem is most racists don't think they have a problem.
For example actor Liam Neeson said that after his female friend was raped he subsequently walked around looking for a black person to kill. According to Liam he was lucky he didn't cross paths with a black male. I see no evidence of him being cancelled and the manner he disclosed his feelings was accepted as truth seeking and personal growth which everyone accepted.
It's interesting you mentioned incels. Young men (including many Aspies) are drawn to groups like this because of years of suppressed frustration about lack of employment opportunities, bullying, ostracism and being actively ignored by women. While only some of these young men channel their frustration and turn to violence, If you read posts on 4chan and 8chan you get some idea of the pent up aggression bubbling to the surface in most of these men,
I went through phases in my own life in my 20s where I wanted to vent aggressively against women in general but fortunately when I hit this phase I left Australia and travelled for 3 years in Asia. That removed those thoughts from my head and when I look back I know it was generated out of frustration and not from any hatred of women,
I think Dr Khilanani is dealing with similar frustrations with white people and these irrational thoughts are coming into her head. I look at this as a cry for help, I hope one of her colleagues is willing to oblige.
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I think Dr Khilanani is dealing with similar frustrations with white people and these irrational thoughts are coming into her head. I look at this as a cry for help, I hope one of her colleagues is willing to oblige.
Using your example, if someone here started venting about their frustrations with women, they'd most surely be banned, or at least given a stern warning, long before any violent fantasies were shared. Very few would say it's just a cry for help and they need to get it off their chest.
But a double standard exists. This Dr. K is seemingly given a pass for brazenly sharing her violent fantasies.
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cyberdad wrote:
I think Dr Khilanani is dealing with similar frustrations with white people and these irrational thoughts are coming into her head. I look at this as a cry for help, I hope one of her colleagues is willing to oblige.
Using your example, if someone here started venting about their frustrations with women, they'd most surely be banned, or at least given a stern warning, long before any violent fantasies were shared. Very few would say it's just a cry for help and they need to get it off their chest.
But a double standard exists. This Dr. K is seemingly given a pass for brazenly sharing her violent fantasies.
If a young man publicly stated they wanted to kill women online they would be rebuked and possibly investigated because women are always vulnerable to violence from men.
In contrast this is a small, petit female doctor who is talking to an audience of medical academics so the context is completely different.
cyberdad wrote:
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Using your example, if someone here started venting about their frustrations with women, they'd most surely be banned, or at least given a stern warning, long before any violent fantasies were shared. Very few would say it's just a cry for help and they need to get it off their chest.
But a double standard exists. This Dr. K is seemingly given a pass for brazenly sharing her violent fantasies.
But a double standard exists. This Dr. K is seemingly given a pass for brazenly sharing her violent fantasies.
If a young man publicly stated they wanted to kill women online they would be rebuked and possibly investigated because women are always vulnerable to violence from men.
In contrast this is a small, petit female doctor who is talking to an audience of medical academics so the context is completely different.
Actually, I was talking about this very website, Wrong Planet. Threads have been locked before they ever got to threats of violence. They may never have even gotten there. But the words were "bad." And yet, some of the same WP members who agree with that policy suddenly get hypocritical and throw it out the window and make excuses. I'm surprised how many folks are reaching to justify Dr. K's words, when they'd be completely opposed to much less hostile language coming from other groups...
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Using your example, if someone here started venting about their frustrations with women, they'd most surely be banned, or at least given a stern warning, long before any violent fantasies were shared. Very few would say it's just a cry for help and they need to get it off their chest.
But a double standard exists. This Dr. K is seemingly given a pass for brazenly sharing her violent fantasies.
But a double standard exists. This Dr. K is seemingly given a pass for brazenly sharing her violent fantasies.
If a young man publicly stated they wanted to kill women online they would be rebuked and possibly investigated because women are always vulnerable to violence from men.
In contrast this is a small, petit female doctor who is talking to an audience of medical academics so the context is completely different.
Actually, I was talking about this very website, Wrong Planet. Threads have been locked before they ever got to threats of violence. They may never have even gotten there. But the words were "bad." And yet, some of the same WP members who agree with that policy suddenly get hypocritical and throw it out the window and make excuses. I'm surprised how many folks are reaching to justify Dr. K's words, when they'd be completely opposed to much less hostile language coming from other groups...
Sadly, hypocracy appears to be rather common on this site - I've seen a member weaponise race to try and demean another member\their posts, then turn around and complain constantly about "racism" that they perceive...
I've also now seen a member claim "racism" when a white female said something they felt was subjectively "racist" (and imply anyone standing up for them was treating them as a "fragile vulnerable female") , then turn around and defend another person against claims of racism becuase the person was a "small, petit female doctor"...
cyberdad wrote:
I'm a fan of witnessing mental gymnastics in defence of deplorable individuals
Fixed it for you...
Brictoria wrote:
I've also now seen a member claim "racism" when a white female said something they felt was subjectively "racist" (and imply anyone standing up for them was treating them as a "fragile vulnerable female") , then turn around and defend another person against claims of racism becuase the person was a "small, petit female doctor"...
Amy Cooper was exacting revenge putting a man in danger
The doctor was going through a catharsis in front of her colleagues
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Actually, I was talking about this very website, Wrong Planet. Threads have been locked before they ever got to threats of violence. They may never have even gotten there. But the words were "bad." And yet, some of the same WP members who agree with that policy suddenly get hypocritical and throw it out the window and make excuses. I'm surprised how many folks are reaching to justify Dr. K's words, when they'd be completely opposed to much less hostile language coming from other groups...
I imagine the mods understand nuance and context when comparing a troll on WP with somebody supporting another person's need to undergo a form mental release which is quite revealing about the state of mental health of a segment of the population.
I would be equally interested if this was a Trump supporter, an Incel or a devil worshipper going in public about their darkest fantasies.
