Dirty Tricks in Virginia

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While Dox will say I don't know what I'm talking about, the truth is, plenty of whites of a conservative political and social bent have always taken umbrage at teaching the history of racial oppression, seeing the portrayal of whites as behaving badly offensive. The whole point is, they can now keep such actual history out of class rooms.

it is an sociological analytical system predicated on the idea that racism has long been systemic in america at all levels, and not just demonstrated by individual people with their own prejudices. the theory states that racism and the resultant inequality/disenfranchisement is designed into our legal systems and adversely affects generations of POC in schools, offices, the criminal justice system and countless other areas of life.

Yo genius, did you bother to look at who got elected?



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Let me guess, Oreos and coconuts? Aunt Tomisha?

Let me word this very carefully: Could you please try to post less stupid things in the future? Even by your standards, this is moronic; not only are you basically copping to not knowing what CRT is, you're saying that even if my criticism is accurate (which you can't say because you don't actually know despite loudly opining), it doesn't matter because the GOP is using it as an issue. That would be like me saying that even if all the racism the Democrats seem to see everywhere were real, it wouldn't matter because the Democrats are using it as an issue, therefore it's okay to ignore it, it's just a stupid, stupid take. All the stuff about marriages and bathrooms is an unrelated smokescreen you're trying to hide your ignorance of the issue behind, because you can't admit that your beloved party might be wrong about something, or that GOP voter may have a legitimate point, so you've got to try and muddy the water with this random BS.



You think highly educated professional class suburban Virginians think that? I may have been too charitable in my previous assessment of your response, this has gone beyond mere stupidity to outright malice. You live in a reddish area, is this what you think your neighbors want?



Oh, you think you're psychic too? Tell me what I'm thinking about you right now, it should be really obvious.

And I'd be right, you seldom know what you're talking about, unless by sheer coincidence your preferred talking heads have provided a rare accurate take for you to parrot. I'm sure some whites, and not just conservative ones, as an old union guy like yourself well should know, prefer to, *ahem* whitewash history, but it's not a common sentiment, and pretending that it is for political purposes is getting very old. Why don't you show us one of these bills that would prevent the teaching of accurate history? Surely, if that's so transparently the point and the GOP's real goal in bringing these bills, it should be obvious to even a casual reader of the bills that that's their purpose? Just a quick cut and paste will suffice, shouldn't take you but a moment if it's so obvious.

Well, there's a little bit of confusion regarding the term as it's become a bit of a catch-all term for a certain type of pedagogy that's become voguish on the left, but it's not a history program per se, though it would have a different gloss on a lot of American history in particular. You might call it tilt or slant, traditional American history classes would teach about slavery and what we did to the Indians and all of our other national dirty laundry, and the anti-CRT laws would do nothing to prevent that, what critical pedagogy would do differently would be to emphasize the racial injustice almost to the exclusion of everything else, teaching that America was founded as an inherently racist country, that we fought the British to preserve the slave trade (as claimed in the 1619 Project material), that everything ever created here was designed with explicitly racist ends in mind, etc.

Critical pedagogy also teaches identity essentialism, that the most important parts of a person are their immutable characteristics, with certain groups being victims and oppressors based solely on their identity and not their specific circumstances, it rejects the colorblind activism of the civil rights era as naive and ignorant, in many ways it resembles Marxist class struggle with identity standing in for class. There's a lot more, oppression matrices, affinity groups, there's some weird stuff with self ID trans issues that are not hypothetical, it basically casts everything through the lens of identity, even concepts like facts, mathematics, truth, it's quite bizarre, especially if you're not familiar with the post-modern theories that it evolved from.

This isn't imaginary, it's not some bogeyman cooked up by political operatives, the reason it's having so much success as a grass roots issue is that it's been creeping into schools for years, but this last year parents really started to notice it due to so many classes being online, and people often for the first time saw what was actually being taught to their children, and they want it stopped.

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(Sigh) So you think white public school kids are being taught to feel shame and self hatred for being white in Virginia schools? Because that's what your argument and insults add up to. By the way, here's a hint - - they're not.
Do I think educated parents in the suburbs of Virginia are racist? No, I don't. The fact that Terry McAuliffe had garnered as many votes as he had, despite losing, says he had won that demographic. But Virginia also has a very conservative rural population that allowed themselves to be scared $hitless by the CRT bogeyman, because they wanted to be. Them, and urban and suburban conservatives carried the day by this issue.
Yes, I live in a "reddish" area. Are there racists here? Unfortunately, we have our share, as some of the local idiots display the Confederate treasonous rag. But is CRT such a bogeyman as it was in Virginia? No, simply because, unlike Virginia, no part of Washington state, east side or west side, had ever been part of the Confederacy, or had a Confederate history to cling to and justify.
But seriously, you said you would try to keep from being as caustic and rude as you once had been. Try harder.

And CRT creeping into our schools? Nothing like that had ever been taught to my daughter. And yes, she is a public high school student.

Mr Binary Man. <tap foot>
I have never said the right can do no evil, but you have suggested on many occasions, over the years, that:
All Democrats are angels.
All Republicans are evil daemons.

I, on the other hand, constantly harp on about there being wrong on *both* sides of the political divide.
How many times do I have to say it before you understand my position?
To suggest through implication, that I embrace a binary here, is self-evident nonsense.

I thought it obvious.
The extreme left wants all Caucasians to embrace collective guilt.
Have you forgotten the "Take the knee" campaign?
They want all whites to self-flagellate.

It is the same nonsense I had to contend with as a child.
I had to inherit the sins of my German "forefathers".
I no longer accept such anti-intellectual drivel.

The teaching fraternity has been infiltrated by left-wing extremists.
We will have to agree to disagree on this point.
They are instilling hard left-wing ideology.
Haven't you been paying attention?
I am guessing they learnt that strategy from the Nazi indoctrination of the German youth.

From what I understand, CRT is abused, by the left, for political gain.

to borrow a right-wing trope, just because criminals misuse guns doesn't mean that law-abiding citizens should not have guns. same for CRT and POC.

That "little" detail seems to have been overlooked.

The left constantly uses the race card whether or not it is relevant.
That is so "yesterday".

IMHO black GOPers are just as bad for the working class [and by extension, many POCers] as white GOPers. clarence thomas and his regressive social views are the chief example.

Agreed.
The qualifier "extreme left", as has been mentioned recently, was the context I was using.
I thought it obvious that the context followed through.
Did I suggest *anywhere* I was a binarist?

The problem is, left-wing politicians in power have turned a blind eye to its misuse.
This is my *opinion*, based on what I have observed.
We will have to agree to disagree.