Trudeau flees as first 1,000 Trucks Arrive in Ottawa

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29 Jan 2022, 8:02 pm

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Just clarifying.

Are you guys saying that American left-wingers believe people can only protest if they're also left-wingers?

This issue in Ottawa has nothing to do with left-right wing, but I'm curious what you're all saying.



I'm just saying that right wingers will rant and whine about the left protesting and blocking traffic and stuff but yet they will do the exact same thing which makes them look like hypocrites.


In America?

This story is about Canada, and it's bipartisan.


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29 Jan 2022, 8:10 pm

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People do realise Trudeau is the biggest racist in this story, right? Not the truckers or the citizens?

(Incidentally, a majority of our truckers are new immigrants and refugees).



I don't know anything about him but in the OP I read the protest was against mandatory vaccines for truckers. Here in the US, many companies are requiring mandatory vaccines or get fired. There have been protests here about it as well because they don't want to get vaccinated.

But I guess the protest in Canada isn't about mandatory vaccines but more about bigger things?


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29 Jan 2022, 8:17 pm

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People do realise Trudeau is the biggest racist in this story, right? Not the truckers or the citizens?

(Incidentally, a majority of our truckers are new immigrants and refugees).


According to Evan Balgord, executive director of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network it's the organisers that are suspect.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covi ... zers-hate/


How reliable is this newssite? They mention two names on the gofundme but repeated several times the organizers could not be clearly defined. I also noticed the gofundme has not released all the funds as they wanted to insure the money was used as intended. They also never defined how much involvement the two names had in the gofundme. It raises questions in my opinion but two bad actors (if they are or are not is still questionable, I’m not familiar with them) with a bad tweets does not make the protest a right wing white supremacy protest.



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29 Jan 2022, 8:18 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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People do realise Trudeau is the biggest racist in this story, right? Not the truckers or the citizens?

(Incidentally, a majority of our truckers are new immigrants and refugees).



I don't know anything about him but in the OP I read the protest was against mandatory vaccines for truckers. Here in the US, many companies are requiring mandatory vaccines or get fired. There have been protests here about it as well because they don't want to get vaccinated.

But I guess the protest in Canada isn't about mandatory vaccines but more about bigger things?


To be honest I'm not a trucker so I can't speak for the truckers. I can only speak for the prevailing sentiment against Trudeau and his party (which started with his father as PM), the humanitarian crisis across our country originating from the mistreatment of First Nations communities, and the deterioration of economy / morale in Ontario due to Doug Ford's policies. Most of us are already vaccinated and I've said that repeatedly but we still live with mandates, restrictions, and lockdowns which threaten our livelihood and mental health.

I should add that the media's representation of "50,000" trucks spanning hundreds of kilometres in convoy was grossly incorrect. I believe there are about 300 trucks in total last I heard, and it's in the business district of a wealthy city where most people are working from home.

Justin Trudeau says he has to quarantine and he can't speak to protesters.


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29 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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People do realise Trudeau is the biggest racist in this story, right? Not the truckers or the citizens?

(Incidentally, a majority of our truckers are new immigrants and refugees).



I don't know anything about him but in the OP I read the protest was against mandatory vaccines for truckers. Here in the US, many companies are requiring mandatory vaccines or get fired. There have been protests here about it as well because they don't want to get vaccinated.

But I guess the protest in Canada isn't about mandatory vaccines but more about bigger things?


The US courts are also ruling these mandates unconstitutional.



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29 Jan 2022, 8:26 pm

txfz1 wrote:
Doberdoofus wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
People do realise Trudeau is the biggest racist in this story, right? Not the truckers or the citizens?

(Incidentally, a majority of our truckers are new immigrants and refugees).


According to Evan Balgord, executive director of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network it's the organisers that are suspect.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covi ... zers-hate/


How reliable is this newssite? They mention two names on the gofundme but repeated several times the organizers could not be clearly defined. I also noticed the gofundme has not released all the funds as they wanted to insure the money was used as intended. They also never defined how much involvement the two names had in the gofundme. It raises questions in my opinion but two bad actors (if they are or are not is still questionable, I’m not familiar with them) with a bad tweets does not make the protest a right wing white supremacy protest.


I have no idea sorry. I just searched for a website that called the convoy racist :lol: I am just the messenger.

Here is a website that rated the news site for bias and reliability but I have no idea how reliable the raters on that website are :lol:

https://adfontesmedia.com/global-news-b ... liability/


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29 Jan 2022, 8:54 pm

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People do realise Trudeau is the biggest racist in this story, right? Not the truckers or the citizens?

(Incidentally, a majority of our truckers are new immigrants and refugees).



I don't know anything about him but in the OP I read the protest was against mandatory vaccines for truckers. Here in the US, many companies are requiring mandatory vaccines or get fired. There have been protests here about it as well because they don't want to get vaccinated.

But I guess the protest in Canada isn't about mandatory vaccines but more about bigger things?


The US courts are also ruling these mandates unconstitutional.


My biggest issue is that we're all vaccinated and we're all sacrificing, but when we get sick we can't get tested??? What's up with that???? That means that workers who have a cold can't go to work because they don't pass the screening questions ("Have you had a cough ...."), meaning they can't provide evidence of a negative test, they can't go to work, they can't get paid, and many are losing their jobs or small businesses. We're told to just stay home for a month every time we have a cold, in the winter, even though we're vaccinated? That's messed up.

People are going crazy here. We were willing to be in lockdown for the better part of two years. Willing to get a vaccine. And another vaccine. And a third vaccine. But the rules aren't really changing, and with the incompetence of our leadership entire families are starving or losing their homes. Then there's people like me not receiving a penny of stimulus money because I'm disabled. Actually no one in my family got a penny despite having to pay for shipping on everything from bread to dog food to a new toothbrush.

People are losing their shite. All we want is the freedom to act like responsible citizens, which we are. Legislation isn't changing anything or helping anyone, especially the First Nations communities who haven't even had clean drinking water for ... 26 years?

Like WTF


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29 Jan 2022, 9:19 pm

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Yeah, except in reality the organizers are about freedom from any form of societal or social contracts (like being a Provincial member of Canada) as well as freedom from having anything to do with BIPOC people. They’re a bunch of far right fringe loonies and they’re using the trucker protest against mandates to recruit support for their brand of crazy.


Where are you getting this information or are you speculating? Everything I’ve read leads me to believe it is about protesting the mandates being applied to the trucking industry.


The organizers of the multimillion dollar gofundme are members/associates of fringe right wing political parties and the wexit movement for Alberta separatists. They’re also white supremacists. They’ve highjacked any good intentions of any protestors to gain support for their whack job causes.


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29 Jan 2022, 9:25 pm

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Yeah, except in reality the organizers are about freedom from any form of societal or social contracts (like being a Provincial member of Canada) as well as freedom from having anything to do with BIPOC people. They’re a bunch of far right fringe loonies and they’re using the trucker protest against mandates to recruit support for their brand of crazy.


Where are you getting this information or are you speculating? Everything I’ve read leads me to believe it is about protesting the mandates being applied to the trucking industry.


The organizers of the multimillion dollar gofundme are members/associates of fringe right wing political parties and the wexit movement for Alberta separatists. They’re also white supremacists. They’ve highjacked any good intentions of any protestors to gain support for their whack job causes.


No, two people are associated but no proof the protest organizers are fringe from the article. I agree but two bad apples out of how many organizers?



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29 Jan 2022, 9:26 pm

My son's school has a requirement that if you get sick, you need to get tested for covid and all the siblings must stay home until the test comes back negative. The requirement is the kid must not have any symptoms for 48 hrs before they go back to school. I am lucky I don't miss out on work for this because I work evenings. But I am aware that work places make you stay home if you have any sort of sickness like a cough or sore throat and get tested for covid. And this doesn't matter if we are vaccinated. It doesn't matter if my kids have been vaccinated.


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29 Jan 2022, 9:29 pm

I didn't know it was so bad up in Canada. It's a lot freer here. No one gets busted. You can pretty much do what you want for the most part. Less restrictive. Wear a mask, or don't. Your choice. No one will stop you. Only thing that's bad is the 24hr lateral tests required for some venues. Luckily only a minority of places.


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29 Jan 2022, 9:39 pm

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My son's school has a requirement that if you get sick, you need to get tested for covid and all the siblings must stay home until the test comes back negative. The requirement is the kid must not have any symptoms for 48 hrs before they go back to school. I am lucky I don't miss out on work for this because I work evenings. But I am aware that work places make you stay home if you have any sort of sickness like a cough or sore throat and get tested for covid. And this doesn't matter if we are vaccinated. It doesn't matter if my kids have been vaccinated.


I got sick on 31/12 but couldn't be tested. Good thing I'm not working. Doctor said (by phone) to stay home until it was completely gone + 5 days. It's still not completely gone to be honest, but I could have likely started counting the five days about a week ago -- meaning I was isolating until about three days ago (26 days total) - during which time I couldn't take my mother to appointments or even have anyone in the house to fix our heat. In the meantime my daughter caught it from me about a week after mine, and because she's immuno compromised we were told we'd both need to stay in the house for another 21 days after hers ends. That would be mid February? So ... about seven weeks for me?


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29 Jan 2022, 9:49 pm

There’s a petition out.
https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeact ... 3181688569


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29 Jan 2022, 10:00 pm

Hypothetically speaking, if some of these truck drivers did in fact turn out to be some sort of fringe right wing types, what bearing would that actually have on their argument for loosening covid restrictions?


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29 Jan 2022, 10:02 pm

It's all just meaningless words. Racism, sexism and whatever -ism. They have zero actual meaning nowadays, because they've lost it, and the users use their own subjective meanings, so no one can actually come to agreement; bad actors will change the meaning to suit their agenda. Which is the entire point, as it divides and conquers and allows for bad actors to gain power. When people stop caring about words and focus more on actions, they'll realize what is being done to them by the modern Kings and Queens.

Say a naughty word in many countries = police come knocking
Don't get a [non-sterilizing immunity] vaccine in many countries = lose your job

That's tyranny. Some people are fine with it though, because they agree with these things. The nature of tyranny is that it'll come for them all the same for things they care about.

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29 Jan 2022, 10:02 pm

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More people wanting to die from COVID.  What a disgrace.


I say let them, if the want to be that stupid. Besides, you can’t fix stupid!