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07 Mar 2022, 3:27 pm

Ross Perot? That was 30 f*****g years ago. Third-party and independent candidates are not even allowed in the debates any more.

You clearly have no conception of how the U.S. political system has devolved to maintain corporate power.


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08 Mar 2022, 3:31 am

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Selective memory. Trump answered Muller's questions and Hillary bleached-bit her server.


I was thinking of full, in person testimony, not written answers with no cross examination. Only one of them sat in a chair and faced a committee.

Both had apparently “convenient” losses of data.


Clinton set the full testimony precedent during his impeachment. What data did Trump bleachbit? The FBI's fabricated FISA, Hillary's monitoring his private emails, did he lose Steele's video of the pee incident in Moscow? In hindsight, since everything was fabricated, did you expect OMB to contribute to the fabrications?


It would seem you haven't been following recent revelations about what went on in Trump's White House. A lot of smoke coming from people who worked directly with him.


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08 Mar 2022, 8:53 am

No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?



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08 Mar 2022, 4:41 pm

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No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?


Pretty detailed for just trying to sell books.
Why would Trump court such a hostile foreign leader like Putin, unless he saw Putin as his benefactor?


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09 Mar 2022, 2:44 am

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No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?


Drop the Russian collusion issue and simply look at the evidence of obstruction. Don't obsess over what was being obstructed; it doesn't have to be Russia and we may never be totally sure of what it was.

It isn't just the people writing books. The National Archives has been gathering Trump's records (as they do with ALL presidencies) and making a lot of "interesting" discoveries. The Trump administration was not following our records laws.

Give it time. There is evidence, it just hasn't all been collated and released in a cohesive fashion yet.


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09 Mar 2022, 3:49 am

I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.



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09 Mar 2022, 4:53 am

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I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.


Unfortunately, I think you're right.


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09 Mar 2022, 5:19 am

DW_a_mom wrote:
Drop the Russian collusion issue and simply look at the evidence of obstruction. Don't obsess over what was being obstructed; it doesn't have to be Russia and we may never be totally sure of what it was.

It isn't just the people writing books. The National Archives has been gathering Trump's records (as they do with ALL presidencies) and making a lot of "interesting" discoveries. The Trump administration was not following our records laws.

Give it time. There is evidence, it just hasn't all been collated and released in a cohesive fashion yet.
Try these links:

 Link to a Listing of DONALD TRUMP's ATROCITIES 

 Link to a Timeline of DONALD TRUMP's COUP ATTEMPT 



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09 Mar 2022, 5:21 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.
Unfortunately, I think you're right.
I have spoken to people in the last 10 years who still believe victory over the Confederate States was stolen and that Jefferson Davis is still their president.



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09 Mar 2022, 9:13 am

hate is a powerful behavioral motivator, and durable.



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09 Mar 2022, 9:38 am

DW_a_mom wrote:
txfz1 wrote:
No, I've not been following what people say, seems pointless unless you want to sell books. Do they have proof the four years of russian collusion wasn't fabricated? Got any support to the claims?


Drop the Russian collusion issue and simply look at the evidence of obstruction. Don't obsess over what was being obstructed; it doesn't have to be Russia and we may never be totally sure of what it was.

It isn't just the people writing books. The National Archives has been gathering Trump's records (as they do with ALL presidencies) and making a lot of "interesting" discoveries. The Trump administration was not following our records laws.

Give it time. There is evidence, it just hasn't all been collated and released in a cohesive fashion yet.


What evidence? You are arguing that OMB obstructed the evidence to an event fabricated by someone else? The logic is just not there. His obstruction (telling people not to testify?) wan't as bad as Clinton's and Clinton walked.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:20 am

Fnord wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.
Unfortunately, I think you're right.
I have spoken to people in the last 10 years who still believe victory over the Confederate States was stolen and that Jefferson Davis is still their president.


I wasn't talking about his fans.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:21 am

Fnord wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think even if Trump ends up in prison, people will still go on about him as if he was still the president of the US.
Unfortunately, I think you're right.
I have spoken to people in the last 10 years who still believe victory over the Confederate States was stolen and that Jefferson Davis is still their president.


I think Trump has succeeded Davis at this point for those folk. :nerdy:


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09 Mar 2022, 4:07 pm

Jeff Davis has a decent pie named after him.Who would want to eat Trump pie.I bet I can guess what it tastes like.


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09 Mar 2022, 4:08 pm

prolly tastes like cowpie.



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09 Mar 2022, 4:10 pm

auntblabby wrote:
prolly tastes like cowpie.

Don’t even want to know what the meringue would be made of. 8O


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