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11 May 2022, 11:48 pm

Talk of Biden's so called dementia is so overblown. I can remember from years ago when people had questioned his competency, and how he had foot-in-mouth-disease (which is nothing compared to Trump's), and yet Biden constantly used that underestimation against his opponents. For the record, Biden had always verbally stumbled, and strayed from the point from time to time. But behind all that has always been years and years of experience in government that few of his critics can match.


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11 May 2022, 11:54 pm

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The issue with poor Mr. Biden is he's a geriatric with progressive dementia. And I say that without malice. I wouldn't be surprised if he weeps over it in private.


This is my assessment, also.
I do have sympathy for his condition.
People my age watch out for symptoms of dementia on a regular basis.
Part of the reason I post is to make a personal evaluation, btw.

One day it is bound to happen.
It is just a matter of time, for most of us. 8O


We lose it eventually either mentally or physically. My mom and her sister were about a year or so apart. While my aunt was in great shape physically, her mind started to go. Whereas my mom was still pretty sharp at the end, but physically she steadily declined and became an invalid. You've still got four good years left. Once you reach 60 it's all downhill at a rapid pace :skull: :twisted:



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11 May 2022, 11:55 pm

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Still, Biden has become the POTUS despite obvious dents in perception of him.
Perception matters but it's not everything. Luckily.

Perception was Biden was the lesser of two evils.


But Biden wasn't the only one running for president on the democrat ticket. There were plenty of other candidates to choose from.


Biden can connect positively with people in a way that few other politicians can. Plus, Biden is hardly the one dimensional cartoon character the right has made him out to be.


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12 May 2022, 12:05 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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magz wrote:
Still, Biden has become the POTUS despite obvious dents in perception of him.
Perception matters but it's not everything. Luckily.

Perception was Biden was the lesser of two evils.


But Biden wasn't the only one running for president on the democrat ticket. There were plenty of other candidates to choose from.


Biden can connect positively with people in a way that few other politicians can. Plus, Biden is hardly the one dimensional cartoon character the right has made him out to be.


To me he's one of those who ran for president several times, and finally succeed after he was well past his prime.

To me there's a big difference between this Joe Biden and the one who's in the oval office.



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12 May 2022, 12:24 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:
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Still, Biden has become the POTUS despite obvious dents in perception of him.
Perception matters but it's not everything. Luckily.

Perception was Biden was the lesser of two evils.


But Biden wasn't the only one running for president on the democrat ticket. There were plenty of other candidates to choose from.


Biden can connect positively with people in a way that few other politicians can. Plus, Biden is hardly the one dimensional cartoon character the right has made him out to be.


To me he's one of those who ran for president several times, and finally succeed after he was well past his prime.

To me there's a big difference between this Joe Biden and the one who's in the oval office.



Maybe so. But I'd still rather have him at this age than the Trump alternative.


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12 May 2022, 1:38 am

Pepe wrote:
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Still, Biden has become the POTUS despite obvious dents in perception of him.
Perception matters but it's not everything. Luckily.


It astounds me that a nation of around 330 million people can't find better than a Trump or a Biden.
Very, very odd. :scratch:

not quite as "odd" if you knew more of amuuuuricans and our petty conceits. perverse, certainly yes. but odd? compared to the sane parts of the world, perhaps.



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12 May 2022, 2:26 am

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Maybe so. But I'd still rather have him at this age than the Trump alternative.


Like I said, there were many other alternatives to Trump than Biden. And if Trump runs against a president whom everyone perceives as senile, it's going to increase Trump's chances. So if I were a democrat rather than an independent, I'd consider him a serious liability if he continues to decline. Personally I'm hoping someone of Obama's caliber either democrat, republican or independent comes on the scene as a candidate.



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12 May 2022, 2:59 am

it seems that the GOP will put forward somebody yet meaner than trumpy but also much cagier and more superficially competent. it may well be said of this candidate, "who can make war with him?" ;)



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12 May 2022, 3:46 am

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Actually, I think if Trump is no more, the right wing has a chance to become a bit more reasonable.
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As far as I'm concerned he is no more. No more than just a personality like he was before that complete fluke put him in the white house.
I based my 'prediction' on a best guess derived from previous experiences with smaller groups run by despots.

It did not matter if the despots died, went to prison, or were forcibly deposed; soon after the despot was gone, the groups collapsed from internal conflicts, and eventually re-formed as two or more similar groups run by other despots.

Most of these groups has religious roots, but some were simply personality cults -- just like Trump's MAGAs.
I agree about the mechanics of collapse after end of leadership - it also happened to a lot of Medieval European states, with the empire of Charlemagne being a textbook example.
I understand "right-wing" in broader sense, as conservative-leaning part of the society and politicians seeking their votes. They won't disappear.


"Alexander the Great". 8)



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12 May 2022, 3:48 am

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There's still a rather dangerous Trump personality cult floating around-----along with Q-Anon partisans......and many other aspects of the Alt-Right Lunatic Fringe.


And on the other side, we have Antifa. 8)



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12 May 2022, 3:56 am

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Even though I'm an independent, I lament how Trump has taken over most "Republicanism." Before Trump, the Republicans, at least, sought to maintain our Constitution.

Any time anybody speaks up against his schemes, that person is called schoolyard names by Trump, and is labeled a RINO.


Trump is afforded way more power than he has by those who are afraid he's going to come into power again.


Agreed.
The left is pooping their pants. 8O



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12 May 2022, 4:03 am

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If Trumpy was no more, the right wing would collapse like one of his business deals.[/color]


I doubt that.
The right would rally around DeSantis another republican if Trump was out of the picture.

The trouble is, a significant number of republicans still revere Trump, hence his political potency.
If he would voluntarily exit the political scene, Ammuuurian politics would be healthier, but what are the chances of that? :mrgreen:



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12 May 2022, 4:10 am

Fnord wrote:
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Actually, I think if Trump is no more, the right wing has a chance to become a bit more reasonable.
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As far as I'm concerned he is no more. No more than just a personality like he was before that complete fluke put him in the white house.
I based my 'prediction' on a best guess derived from previous experiences with smaller groups run by despots.

It did not matter if the despots died, went to prison, or were forcibly deposed; soon after the despot was gone, the groups collapsed from internal conflicts, and eventually re-formed as two or more similar groups run by other despots.

Most of these groups has religious roots, but some were simply personality cults -- just like Trump's MAGAs.[/color]


Poor comparison.
While Ammuuuria is a political mess, it isn't anywhere near having a totalitarian government.
But we all knew that, didn't we? ;)



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12 May 2022, 4:14 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:
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magz wrote:
Still, Biden has become the POTUS despite obvious dents in perception of him.
Perception matters but it's not everything. Luckily.

Perception was Biden was the lesser of two evils.


But Biden wasn't the only one running for president on the democrat ticket. There were plenty of other candidates to choose from.


Factionalism has destroyed Australian politics, also.



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12 May 2022, 4:17 am

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Talk of Biden's so called dementia is so overblown. I can remember from years ago when people had questioned his competency, and how he had foot-in-mouth-disease (which is nothing compared to Trump's), and yet Biden constantly used that underestimation against his opponents. For the record, Biden had always verbally stumbled, and strayed from the point from time to time. But behind all that has always been years and years of experience in government that few of his critics can match.


I am sure you believe all that, my misguided friend. :mrgreen:
So, who will be replacing Biden in the next presidential race? :scratch:



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12 May 2022, 4:38 am

Pepe wrote:
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Talk of Biden's so called dementia is so overblown. I can remember from years ago when people had questioned his competency, and how he had foot-in-mouth-disease (which is nothing compared to Trump's), and yet Biden constantly used that underestimation against his opponents. For the record, Biden had always verbally stumbled, and strayed from the point from time to time. But behind all that has always been years and years of experience in government that few of his critics can match.


I am sure you believe all that, my misguided friend. :mrgreen:
So, who will be replacing Biden in the next presidential race? :scratch:


Unlike Trump, I don't see Biden resisting stepping aside if his senses go.
The right has been showing videos without proper context of Biden's alleged senility.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022 ... dens-word/


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