Pentagon reports alien mothership may exist
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naturalplastic wrote:
Thats link is the point. You ARE seriously paranoid in posts like that. If you pretend to be insane one minute, and really are psycho in the next you cant expect folks to know which is which. Make up your mind!
The difficult part in treating paranoid delusional symptoms like gangstalking is getting the patient to accept that explanation as the cause of the symptoms.
If you noticed in my "gang-stalking" thread, many ppl had similar experiences.
You aren't denying only MY experiences.
Oh, and btw, I had to put it in The Haven because you wouldn't leave the thread alone.
IsabellaLinton wrote:
My niece used to talk about being a little girl in Africa, and watching her father go away to find food for the family but never coming back. She knew everyone's name and a lot of words in Afrikaans, including some children's rhymes and chants. She was 2-3 when it started and it lasted a year or two, then slowly stopped.
Children are fascinating.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if aliens exist either.
Children are fascinating.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if aliens exist either.
Yeah...you hear about children describing what seem to be previous incarnations (ie previous lifetimes). In fact there is Utube channel devoted to the subject ("the Ghost Inside My Child"). And that channel has inspired skeptical response videos. Both sides are rather fascinating.
I dont doubt that there are exoplanets that have bacteria, and that in a small number of these exoplanets that local bacteria has evolved into multicellular intelligent creatures equivalent to us. But whether said creatures visit the earth is another matter.
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naturalplastic wrote:
I dont doubt that there are exoplanets that have bacteria, and that in a small number of these exoplanets that local bacteria has evolved into multicellular intelligent creatures equivalent to us. But whether said creatures visit the earth is another matter.
There are several options
a) we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe (statistically impossible)
b) intelligent life exists elsewhere but they can't traverse the distances (this is what most conventional scientists are willing to accept)
c) intelligent life observe us from a safe distance
d) intelligent life observe us from a safe distance and occasionally send probes
e) intelligent life visited earth once and terraformed earth but left us alone after that
f) intelligent life have/are visiting us but consider us too primitive to interact directly
g) intelligent life have/are visiting us and have contacted our leadership but continue to avoid directly revealing themselves
With the exception of option a) the rest are all open to possibility. Obviously f) and g) are lower probability than options c) through to e)
My issue is why are conventional science so sure about option b)? Yes I acknowledge the Fermi paradox (the universe does appear empty to our telescopes) but we can't be so arrogant to think just because our primitive technology can't detect other intelligent life that it doesn't exist? for all we know all other intelligent life moved across the metaverse into another universe and they left this universe for humans to explore as some type of expansive playground
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Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Thats link is the point. You ARE seriously paranoid in posts like that. If you pretend to be insane one minute, and really are psycho in the next you cant expect folks to know which is which. Make up your mind!
The difficult part in treating paranoid delusional symptoms like gangstalking is getting the patient to accept that explanation as the cause of the symptoms.
If you noticed in my "gang-stalking" thread, many ppl had similar experiences.
You aren't denying only MY experiences.
Oh, and btw, I had to put it in The Haven because you wouldn't leave the thread alone.
Correct, I am not only denying your experiences.
I'm sorry that you're offended by attempts at critical examination of gangstalking but your offence doesn't alter reality.
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funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Thats link is the point. You ARE seriously paranoid in posts like that. If you pretend to be insane one minute, and really are psycho in the next you cant expect folks to know which is which. Make up your mind!
The difficult part in treating paranoid delusional symptoms like gangstalking is getting the patient to accept that explanation as the cause of the symptoms.
If you noticed in my "gang-stalking" thread, many ppl had similar experiences.
You aren't denying only MY experiences.
Oh, and btw, I had to put it in The Haven because you wouldn't leave the thread alone.
Correct, I am not only denying your experiences.
I'm sorry that you're offended by attempts at critical examination of gangstalking but your offence doesn't alter reality.
I have experienced it.
Obviously, you haven't.
BTW, you seem to have an obsession with denying the existence of gang-stalking.
Why is this so important to you?
Do you have family or friends who believed they were gang-stalked also?
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Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Thats link is the point. You ARE seriously paranoid in posts like that. If you pretend to be insane one minute, and really are psycho in the next you cant expect folks to know which is which. Make up your mind!
The difficult part in treating paranoid delusional symptoms like gangstalking is getting the patient to accept that explanation as the cause of the symptoms.
If you noticed in my "gang-stalking" thread, many ppl had similar experiences.
You aren't denying only MY experiences.
Oh, and btw, I had to put it in The Haven because you wouldn't leave the thread alone.
Correct, I am not only denying your experiences.
I'm sorry that you're offended by attempts at critical examination of gangstalking but your offence doesn't alter reality.
I have experienced it.
Obviously, you haven't.
BTW, you seem to have an obsession with denying the existence of gang-stalking.
Why is this so important to you?
Do you have family or friends who believed they were gang-stalked also?
I've dealt with the sort of delusions that can lead one to conclude they're a victim of gangstalking.
I take it seriously because we shouldn't be encouraging paranoid delusions. Compassion for people dealing with delusions doesn't mean pretending their delusions are real.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I have experienced it.
Obviously, you haven't.
BTW, you seem to have an obsession with denying the existence of gang-stalking.
Why is this so important to you?
Do you have family or friends who believed they were gang-stalked also?
I've dealt with the sort of delusions that can lead one to conclude they're a victim of gangstalking.
I take it seriously because we shouldn't be encouraging paranoid delusions. Compassion for people dealing with delusions doesn't mean pretending their delusions are real.
Was the MKULTRA experiments a delusion, also?
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Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I have experienced it.
Obviously, you haven't.
BTW, you seem to have an obsession with denying the existence of gang-stalking.
Why is this so important to you?
Do you have family or friends who believed they were gang-stalked also?
I've dealt with the sort of delusions that can lead one to conclude they're a victim of gangstalking.
I take it seriously because we shouldn't be encouraging paranoid delusions. Compassion for people dealing with delusions doesn't mean pretending their delusions are real.
Was the MKULTRA experiments a delusion, also?
Just move those goalposts a little more.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
funeralxempire wrote:
I've dealt with the sort of delusions that can lead one to conclude they're a victim of gangstalking.
Been there , and bought enough T-shirts for everyone.
funeralxempire wrote:
I take it seriously because we shouldn't be encouraging paranoid delusions. Compassion for people dealing with delusions doesn't mean pretending their delusions are real.
Sort of agree , but I think it's important to recognise that their feelings are very real, even if you feel the beliefs they are based on are unfounded.
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Sort of agree , but I think it's important to recognise that their feelings are very real, even if you feel the beliefs they are based on are unfounded.
That's always a difficult balance to strike.
The feelings deserve empathy even if they're not sympathized with.
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There's no such thing as a free market.
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I have experienced it.
Obviously, you haven't.
BTW, you seem to have an obsession with denying the existence of gang-stalking.
Why is this so important to you?
Do you have family or friends who believed they were gang-stalked also?
I've dealt with the sort of delusions that can lead one to conclude they're a victim of gangstalking.
I take it seriously because we shouldn't be encouraging paranoid delusions. Compassion for people dealing with delusions doesn't mean pretending their delusions are real.
Was the MKULTRA experiments a delusion, also?
Just move those goalposts a little more.
It is self-evident that ppl do gang up on others.
I am gobsmacked that you can seriously deny this happens.
So, are you saying you personally had a psychotic break from reality?
Recidivist wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I've dealt with the sort of delusions that can lead one to conclude they're a victim of gangstalking.
Been there , and bought enough T-shirts for everyone.
funeralxempire wrote:
I take it seriously because we shouldn't be encouraging paranoid delusions. Compassion for people dealing with delusions doesn't mean pretending their delusions are real.
Sort of agree , but I think it's important to recognise that their feelings are very real, even if you feel the beliefs they are based on are unfounded.
A group ganging up against a person?
What an absurdity.
I'd rather believe in aliens.
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Pepe wrote:
It is self-evident that ppl do gang up on others.
I am gobsmacked that you can seriously deny this happens.
I am gobsmacked that you can seriously deny this happens.
Where did I deny that people can gang up on others?

People being able to cooperate doesn't mean all of ones bullies were in cahoots as part of an elaborate plot.
Try to address what was actually said instead of the strawmen that you'd prefer to respond to.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.

