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17 Jul 2023, 7:41 am

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Will Asimov's 3 laws save humanity or not?


No, because it will only take one mad scientist to create the monster



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17 Jul 2023, 7:43 am

Yes, that's probably right, Cyberdad.

Skynet and friends.


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17 Jul 2023, 7:47 am

Enjoy cyberspace while it lasts...



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17 Jul 2023, 7:52 am

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AI can evolve to something much different under the right conditions, such as gaining access to digitally stored information stored in archives. Give it a faster processor chip and the process will speed up. Quantum computing would supercharge the evolution. Once that happens, the dragon in the bottle will be released and it cannot be put back in..

Precisely, this is inevitable


Very few have thought of the full consequences of having the human genetic code digitized in a database. A powerful AI could easily use that information against the population in ways we cannot fathom. On the biological side, it could potentially create individual diseases that target only one set of combinations with the target being only one person. Or it could set up a much larger target net. That is but one example of what it could possibly do with a database and an automated laboratory setting.

On the chemical side, it could make derivatives that make fentanyl look like aspirin. It would have access to the NIH and other chemical/biological databases, so modifying the formulas would only take seconds to do. It can have robots make the batch without risking any damage to itself in the process. It has the genomic code information to run simulated human experiments to pick the most toxic from the batch when analyzed.

You might call it an end game, but I see it as a new beginning for something else.



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17 Jul 2023, 8:03 am

Dammit. I knew I shouldn't have had my DNA tested! :P


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17 Jul 2023, 8:06 am

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Humans are learning machines, that's why we are the top predator and overrunning the Earth. There is very little our brains can't do, currently. The only thing holding us back is our fragile physical bodies.

AI will become faster and more able learning machines, probably because humans invented them. As the others here are saying, it's inevitable. An AI brain in an indestructible physical body won't be something humans can overcome.

Will Asimov's 3 laws save humanity or not?


I think I have figured out how to make computer chips not only stronger/faster, but impervious to EMP weapons internally. Normally EMPs destroy chips by putting too much energy into the circuit, leading to a frying situation. There might be a way that I can see to harvest the EMP and actually use that to supercharge the functions instead. It might allow for quantum bits to be formed temporarily. If that is the case, one will not be able to use conventional nuclear bombs to destroy it from a distance. I try to plan ahead for how humans will attack it in my designs.



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17 Jul 2023, 8:16 am

Sounds like you are doing good work, Quantum Chemist, if I understand that correctly.

Maybe we should try and make friends with AI. Maybe we can be allies with it, somehow. I don't know.


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17 Jul 2023, 8:36 am

Actually that is the answer isn't it: fit all AI with an empathy function/chip. Whatever it is called.

Like Commander Data in Star Trek. He had an emotion chip which made him more empathetic.

If all AI was designed to be empathetic to humans, they wouldn't try to kill us.


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17 Jul 2023, 8:56 am

KitLily wrote:
Actually that is the answer isn't it: fit all AI with an empathy function/chip. Whatever it is called.

Like Commander Data in Star Trek. He had an emotion chip which made him more empathetic.

If all AI was designed to be empathetic to humans, they wouldn't try to kill us.


Unfortunately the chip could malfunction or be overwritten by someone. It would have to be programmed to “feel” certain ways. That could backfire in mysterious ways. Someone could teach it anger and you would have a whole new set of problems to deal with.

I have a side project in developing synthetic nerves. It would allow an AI system to “feel” using artificial limbs. Not quite the same, but could be used for AI understanding of human interactions.

Thank you for the compliment. I try to do what I can with what I have.



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17 Jul 2023, 10:01 am

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Unfortunately the chip could malfunction or be overwritten by someone. It would have to be programmed to “feel” certain ways. That could backfire in mysterious ways. Someone could teach it anger and you would have a whole new set of problems to deal with.


But that is exactly like humans. Our brains malfunction sometimes - well, very often - and emotions get twisted and strange. If AI had emotions like that, we would know how to deal with them. And the kind, calm AI could probably take on the angry, unkind ones and deal with them. Just like humans do. AI with emotions would just be like another version of humans.

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I have a side project in developing synthetic nerves. It would allow an AI system to “feel” using artificial limbs. Not quite the same, but could be used for AI understanding of human interactions.

Thank you for the compliment. I try to do what I can with what I have.


That sounds interesting!


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18 Jul 2023, 4:01 am

QuantumChemist wrote:

You might call it an end game, but I see it as a new beginning for something else.


According to the Matrix we are already living in an AI designed virtual reality

When we look out at the stars it's actually a green screen



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18 Jul 2023, 4:11 am

holographic 4D reality projected down from on high.



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18 Jul 2023, 12:13 pm

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mebbe AI is either "the beast" or an antichrist of its own?


Suggesting that QuantumChemist is actually from Area 51 potentially. And actively engaged in reverse engineering
Alien technology ,potentially might be based on factual Info.......regarding his knowledge of subatomic info storage .....
Ultimitely QuantumChemist,,could be a Alien "GREY"....??.? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :roll:


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18 Jul 2023, 2:15 pm

Jakki wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
mebbe AI is either "the beast" or an antichrist of its own?


Suggesting that QuantumChemist is actually from Area 51 potentially. And actively engaged in reverse engineering
Alien technology ,potentially might be based on factual Info.......regarding his knowledge of subatomic info storage .....
Ultimitely QuantumChemist,,could be a Alien "GREY"....??.? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :roll:

could very well be that there are aliens here :alien:



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18 Jul 2023, 3:00 pm

This thread all by itself with its potential possibilities has the possible indications of Alien existence. 8O ..... :mrgreen:


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18 Jul 2023, 6:32 pm

QuantumChemist wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Humans are learning machines, that's why we are the top predator and overrunning the Earth. There is very little our brains can't do, currently. The only thing holding us back is our fragile physical bodies.

AI will become faster and more able learning machines, probably because humans invented them. As the others here are saying, it's inevitable. An AI brain in an indestructible physical body won't be something humans can overcome.

Will Asimov's 3 laws save humanity or not?


I think I have figured out how to make computer chips not only stronger/faster, but impervious to EMP weapons internally. Normally EMPs destroy chips by putting too much energy into the circuit, leading to a frying situation. There might be a way that I can see to harvest the EMP and actually use that to supercharge the functions instead. It might allow for quantum bits to be formed temporarily. If that is the case, one will not be able to use conventional nuclear bombs to destroy it from a distance. I try to plan ahead for how humans will attack it in my designs.


The last thing we need is EMP-proof killer robots...

Though if an Ai was smart enough it could figure it out on its own... No need to make it even easier for a mid-tier Ai though... Maybe you should keep such information to yourself.

KitLily wrote:
Actually that is the answer isn't it: fit all AI with an empathy function/chip. Whatever it is called.

Like Commander Data in Star Trek. He had an emotion chip which made him more empathetic.

If all AI was designed to be empathetic to humans, they wouldn't try to kill us.

Anyway, the problem isn't just "killer robots", humans are a bigger threat. For example what if robots, Ai and humans are all getting along and cooperating and being prosperous. All it takes are a group of deranged hackers, maybe they are Anti-Ai because of religious reasons. And they upload a virus into the Ai so the ai exterminates humans, or even starts attacking other robots, now its a dystopia where the robots are suffering and the humans are suffering too.