Autistic (Asperger) Student had 900 child porn collection
Gamester wrote:
unfortunately, I disagree.
as such, they need jail, because they pose a danger to the community as a whole (and I'm also refering to a CSI: Miami episode as well)
as such, they need jail, because they pose a danger to the community as a whole (and I'm also refering to a CSI: Miami episode as well)
I think that mutant guy just accused me of downloading child porn. I am very offended by that. For the record, I don't download, look at, make or condone child porn now or in the past. Can you say the same thing mutant?
As far as punishment for those that do, I don't think people should be jailed based on statistics. I think that if ANY person is jailed for ANY crime it should be based on what THAT person did and not what his type is most likely to do based on statistics. How is that any different from saying "Well, this criminal is black and since black criminals have a 50% chance of committing another crime then we should keep this one another couple of years for the protection of the community."
I can assure you that castration will cure most guys of their sexual habits very quickly. That's what will cure these sick people. Jail will not. But the opposite is what is actually happening. Guys are caught, sent to prison for 20 years, then extra time is added on just because of the statistics, then they get out and go right back to where they left off.
Don't believe most of what you see on CSI. That's hollywood stuff. It has to look and sound good. It doesn't have t be true.
SIXLUCY wrote:
I disagree
they dont get 20 years.. much less n less the7y murdered someone
they get nothing except locked up in protection with vunerable young 18 year old...
Who many committ suicide
they dont get 20 years.. much less n less the7y murdered someone
they get nothing except locked up in protection with vunerable young 18 year old...
Who many committ suicide

So why not take it a step further and lock up ALL men over the age of 30 in advance because that demographic is the most likely to commit such a crime.
As far as suicide, you are forgetting that a lot of the accused do that as well rather than face the humiliation of being jailed as a guy who looked at child porn. It would seem that the murderers, thieves, rapists, and terrorists in prison don't like child molesters any more than anyone else.
Again, I don't condone child porn, but I don't condone unfair punishments for ANY crime. In the US, there is a constitutional amendment that prohibits such practices, but its largely ignored. Long unfair sentences for trivial crimes, and short sentences for crimes like murder.
If you get caught going 60 through an abandoned school zone, your fine will be about $350. Get caught shoplifting a $400 TV set from a department store, your fine will be about $100.
This is BS. This punk should be locked up. How pathetic. Child pornographers deserve to die slow, painful deaths!
Last edited by Larree on 24 Jul 2008, 8:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
SIXLUCY wrote:
I disagree
they dont get 20 years.. much less n less the7y murdered someone
they get nothing except locked up in protection with vunerable young 18 year old...
Who many committ suicide
The individual in question is not the person who hurt you. I abviously don't know, but I assume that you were not hurt so badly by someone looking at (or photoshopping) images , so the person did not even commit the same type of crime.they dont get 20 years.. much less n less the7y murdered someone
they get nothing except locked up in protection with vunerable young 18 year old...
Who many committ suicide

The average sentence for a violent sexual offender of children (of any age) is 11 years. They also are placed on the sexual offenders list for the rest of their lives, generally (always?) on probation for the rest of their lives, are effectively disallowed from living in a city, and a number of other restrictions. Whether or not this is sufficient justice, moral, effective, etc., etc. is not the point of the thread. Those are people who directly hurt children. Abusing a child, sexually or otherwise, is not the same as downloading, looking at, making (i.e. drawing, photoshopping, tracing, printing, etc.), or being sexually stimulated by pictures.
Your personal experiences do not have anything to do with this case. Although I am concerned for you that you are filled with such (righteous) anger, it should be aimed the person/people who hurt you, and no one else.
You are not making any logical or reasoned arguements why this individual, in his individual case, should be "tortured to death".
slowmutant wrote:
If you are addicted to downloading & viewing these images, you're still a criminal. You may not be as sick as the pornographers themselves, but you're not an inocent lambikins either.
An individual who is addicted to looking at pre-pubescent children is certainly not an "innocent lambikins" (although no direct harm is caused by looking at photos). Again, in this case the addiction may not be for photos of young children, or even photos at all, but an obsession for collecting in general (see thread on items collected by wrongplanet members). In essence, your arguement in general sounds like "it is illegal, so he broke the law, so should go to jail." Basically the same as accusing anyone and everyone who disagrees with your opinions of being a pedophile. No matter what a law states or how stringent it is, if you break it, you're a criminal. That has nothing to do with Justice.
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Larree wrote:
This is BS. This punk should be locked up. How pathetic. Child pornographers deserve to die slow, painful deaths!
Great, another person to come in at page 11, and jump in with "How pathetic. He should die!" And what did he do that deserves death? Would you be prepared to put to death any and all others who are responsible for an equal amount of damage? Would you be willing to "pull the trigger" on a 21 year old who admitted he was guilty, expressed remorse, and (presumably) does not have any known prediliction towards hurting others?
Last edited by roguetech on 24 Jul 2008, 8:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
SIXLUCY wrote:
Im not listeninnngg..................
I noticeeedd.................. But, I know you will never listen, since you can not see past your own hatred. You won't until you can let your anger go and let yourself heal... But that's not something I can argue you into believing.
roguetech wrote:
SIXLUCY wrote:
I disagree
they dont get 20 years.. much less n less the7y murdered someone
they get nothing except locked up in protection with vunerable young 18 year old...
Who many committ suicide
The individual in question is not the person who hurt you. I abviously don't know, but I assume that you were not hurt so badly by someone looking at (or photoshopping) images , so the person did not even commit the same type of crime.they dont get 20 years.. much less n less the7y murdered someone
they get nothing except locked up in protection with vunerable young 18 year old...
Who many committ suicide

The average sentence for a violent sexual offender of children (of any age) is 11 years. They also are placed on the sexual offenders list for the rest of their lives, generally (always?) on probation for the rest of their lives, are effectively disallowed from living in a city, and a number of other restrictions. Whether or not this is sufficient justice, moral, effective, etc., etc. is not the point of the thread. Those are people who directly hurt children. Abusing a child, sexually or otherwise, is not the same as downloading, looking at, making (i.e. drawing, photoshopping, tracing, printing, etc.), or being sexually stimulated by pictures.
Your personal experiences do not have anything to do with this case. Although I am concerned for you that you are filled with such (righteous) anger, it should be aimed the person/people who hurt you, and no one else.
You are not making any logical or reasoned arguements why this individual, in his individual case, should be "tortured to death".
slowmutant wrote:
If you are addicted to downloading & viewing these images, you're still a criminal. You may not be as sick as the pornographers themselves, but you're not an inocent lambikins either.
An individual who is addicted to looking at pre-pubescent children is certainly not an "innocent lambikins" (although no direct harm is caused by looking at photos). Again, in this case the addiction may not be for photos of young children, or even photos at all, but an obsession for collecting in general (see thread on items collected by wrongplanet members). In essence, your arguement in general sounds like "it is illegal, so he broke the law, so should go to jail." Basically the same as accusing anyone and everyone who disagrees with your opinions of being a pedophile. No matter what a law states or how stringent it is, if you break it, you're a criminal. That has nothing to do with Justice.
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Larree wrote:
This is BS. This punk should be locked up. How pathetic. Child pornographers deserve to die slow, painful deaths!
Great, another person to come in at page 11, and jump in with "How pathetic. He should die!" And what did he do that deserves death? Would you be prepared to put to death any and all others who are responsible for an equal amount of damage? Would you be willing to "pull the trigger" on a 21 year old who admitted he was guilty, expressed remorse, and (presumably) does not have any known prediliction towards hurting others?Sorry, but I am only concerned with the poor children who were forced into child porn. Anyone who collects child porn deserves to die.
Larree wrote:
Sorry, but I am only concerned with the poor children who were forced into child porn. Anyone who collects child porn deserves to die.
In what way did this individual force poor children into child porn?
[edit]And, if he did, what is your basis for stating that it would protect poor children from child porn to put this individual to death?
If there were no people collecting the crap, there would be no traffickers peddling the it. I have no sympathy for this pathetic perverted sicko creep.
Last edited by Larree on 24 Jul 2008, 9:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
Larree wrote:
This is BS. This punk should be locked up. How pathetic. Child pornographers deserve to die slow, painful deaths!
I agree, but we were talking about the guy who was looking at child porn and not the pornographer himself. Child pornographers and drug pushers are the same kind of people, they prey on people who have addictions. Child pornographers SHOULD be locked up. Victims of child porn addiction should be treated so that they don't do it again.
Our government has the technical ability to block such web sites. Why don't they do that?
Then what do you do in a situation like this actual Florida case:
A group of young kids who had heard about how pornography was the largest moneymaker on the internet decided to make their own videos of themselves having sex with each other. They did and were making a lot of money until they got caught. There were no adults involved and the kids themselves were not aware of the legalities. In that case, exactly who is the victim?
As far as the case at hand, the boy with AS was accused of looking at indecent photos (not porn) and not actually making them. (As has been previously stated, the term "Making" in the UK refers to printing pre-existing images and not creating new images.)
I really feel sorry for anyone who feels that someone should be locked up because they have an illness. Statistically, people who are adamant about persecuting such people are usually the very ones who are secretly commiting such crimes. Refresh your memory regarding Mark Foley.
SIXLUCY wrote:
Ta king photos of children more than likely been sexually abused not harmful
Sick Sick Sick Sick Im not lisetning to thisBS BS BS BS anymore
This is not necissarily the case. The photos could be otherwise appropriate ones (bathtub, sprinkler type stuff), or older "children" engaging in consensual sex (i.e. an under-age couple taking photos of themselves). Again, you are projecting things onto this case that are not otherwise implicite.



Larree wrote:
If there were no people collecting the crap, there would be no traffickers peddling the it. I have no sympathy for this pathetic perverted sicko creep.
Many people claim pedophilia is a "sickness" or "compulsion". If that's true, the photos would quiet possibly be made anyway. Even if a direct link between abusing children and the availability of child porn were established, you still have not connected that to the likely recidivism of the individual in question.
You are stating that a 21 one year old person with a penchant for collecting should be murdered for having "indecent" pictures of people under 18. If you can't see the problem with that, it is not because of a need for tort reform.
n4mwd wrote:
Larree wrote:
This is BS. This punk should be locked up. How pathetic. Child pornographers deserve to die slow, painful deaths!
I agree, but we were talking about the guy who was looking at child porn and not the pornographer himself. Child pornographers and drug pushers are the same kind of people, they prey on people who have addictions. Child pornographers SHOULD be locked up. Victims of child porn addiction should be treated so that they don't do it again.
Our government has the technical ability to block such web sites. Why don't they do that?
Then what do you do in a situation like this actual Florida case:
A group of young kids who had heard about how pornography was the largest moneymaker on the internet decided to make their own videos of themselves having sex with each other. They did and were making a lot of money until they got caught. There were no adults involved and the kids themselves were not aware of the legalities. In that case, exactly who is the victim?
As far as the case at hand, the boy with AS was accused of looking at indecent photos (not porn) and not actually making them. (As has been previously stated, the term "Making" in the UK refers to printing pre-existing images and not creating new images.)
I really feel sorry for anyone who feels that someone should be locked up because they have an illness. Statistically, people who are adamant about persecuting such people are usually the very ones who are secretly commiting such crimes. Refresh your memory regarding Mark Foley.
Pedophilia is an illness with no cure. If a perv has a "taste" for kids, it is not worth the possibility of even one kid being molested to allow for this kind of sick freak to be out on the streets to try to cure him... or her. No way. No f*cking way. When kids are molested they are damaged for life. All pedophiles should be locked up for life or executed.
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